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December 29th, 2008 18:00

Studio XPS power supply

I recently ordered a Studio XPS 435MT desktop.  The computer only has a 360W power supply.  The salesperson I spoke with indicated that this unit uses a standard ATX form factor case.  He also stated that although Dell could not upgrade the power supply in my original order, I could upgrade locally after the unit is delivered.

I need at least 400W in order to supply power to my nVidia GeForce video card that I want to install to replace the cheap ATI card that comes with the unit.

Can anyone suggest a decent power supply that I might purchase at Best Buy, Circuit City, CompUSA, etc. for $100 or less?

Thanks in advance and Happy New Year to all!

Rich

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December 30th, 2008 02:00

Hi RFK412, Graphics card manufactures over state their power needs for their cards, and Dell do understate their power in their PSU's. An 360w is more than enough to power an 400w graphics cards. Your PSU will power an graphics card from the Nvidia 9600 series.

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December 29th, 2008 23:00

Here's the one to get: PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D

I just got one and it works great. Make sure you get the "D" version which is specifically Dell Compatible - other versions will not fit.

Get it from Newegg.com. It's on sale with a promo code and a rebate too until 12/31. Much less than $100 with all that. Get on it!

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December 30th, 2008 06:00

Robin,

My video card is a GeForce 9600 GSO with 768MB memory.  The card is supposedly "overclocked" by the manufacturer.  So in our opinion the 360W Dell PSU will run this card with no problem?

Thanks,

Rich

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December 30th, 2008 06:00

Just to clear up some misinformation in this thread..

You don't need a "dell specific" power supply if you choose to upgrade. Any off the shelf ATX power supply will work.

See page 5 of this thread for pics and info.

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December 30th, 2008 07:00

Robin,

My video card is a GeForce 9600 GSO with 768MB memory.  The card is supposedly "overclocked" by the manufacturer.  So in our opinion the 360W Dell PSU will run this card with no problem?

Thanks,

Rich

 

Hi Rich, You should have no problems running that card on an 360w PSU.

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January 8th, 2009 12:00

Is there a 6 pin power connector on the stock power supply?  My video card requires this power connection.

Thanks,

Rich

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January 8th, 2009 19:00

Just purchased an Studio XPS as well, and curious to hear an update to OP (or others) on more power upgrade comments. Really worried about frying my system, and want to get more feedback before upgrading. I talked to a sales rep today and they told me there are no possible upgrades to the studio power supply. They werent very helpful IMO. I wouldnt mind purchasing one from dell, if they had one.

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January 8th, 2009 21:00

I've found a power consumption chart on Ars Technica comparing the 4870 and 4850. It looks like they are very close, I should be able to run the 4870 no  problem.

 

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/ati-4800-series-review.ars/7

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January 8th, 2009 21:00

I have similar question, I would like to run the 4870 is it possible to run on 360W power supply. Hey Mr. Dell, With such a great computer a little extra juice can't hurt. :emotion-14: I going to purchase the studio xps as well and will go with either the 4850 or 4870. On a side note, I spoke with a sales rep from India and he told me that installing a another os would void my warranty?! This is probably untrue. He also said that the PSU would support the 4870, I'm not sure if I trust his advice. :emotion-7:

January 8th, 2009 21:00

I have similar question, I would like to run the 4870 is it possible to run on 360W power supply. Hey Mr. Dell, With such a great computer a little extra juice can't hurt. :emotion-14: I going to purchase the studio xps as well and will go with either the 4850 or 4870. On a side note, I spoke with a sales rep from India and he told me that installing a another os would void my warranty?! This is probably untrue. He also said that the PSU would support the 4870, I'm not sure if I trust his advice. :emotion-7:

Fear not.  See this site: http://www.voidware.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=2

Guy upgraded a new XPS Studio with an Antec Earthwatts 500W PS and an ATI 4870.  Bottom line, off the shelf power supplies will indeed fit in this case...just make sure the dimensions are 150mm x 140mm x 86mm.  Anything bigger and it won't fit.  I put in the Antec 650W Earthwatts and a Noctua 92mm case fan.  The system runs like a dream and is dead silent.

 

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January 8th, 2009 21:00

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I have similar question, I would like to run the 4870 is it possible to run on 360W power supply. Hey Mr. Dell, With such a great computer a little extra juice can't hurt. :emotion-14: I going to purchase the studio xps as well and will go with either the 4850 or 4870. On a side note, I spoke with a sales rep from India and he told me that installing a another os would void my warranty?! This is probably untrue. He also said that the PSU would support the 4870, I'm not sure if I trust his advice. :emotion-7:

Fear not.  See this site: http://www.voidware.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=2

Guy upgraded a new XPS Studio with an Antec Earthwatts 500W PS and an ATI 4870.  Bottom line, off the shelf power supplies will indeed fit in this case...just make sure the dimensions are 150mm x 140mm x 86mm.  Anything bigger and it won't fit.  I put in the Antec 650W Earthwatts and a Noctua 92mm case fan.  The system runs like a dream and is dead silent.

 

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Sweet! So you're recommending I upgrade the PS before installing the 4870?

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January 8th, 2009 21:00

Just purchased an Studio XPS as well, and curious to hear an update to OP (or others) on more power upgrade comments. Really worried about frying my system, and want to get more feedback before upgrading. I talked to a sales rep today and they told me there are no possible upgrades to the studio power supply. They werent very helpful IMO. I wouldnt mind purchasing one from dell, if they had one.

Oh yeah you can upgrade the PSU yourself, but it's not an up grade option you can select on the site. I've read you can upgrade it with any ATX power supply. I know you can upgrade the video card to a 4850 but I'm curious about the 4870, I've heard contradictory things about this.

 

 

I spoke with 2 sales reps from India, nice enough chaps, the first said 4870 would  be ok on the existing PSU. The second said he didn't know. It would be a nice feature on the site to have a power consumption rating chart for each system.:emotion-55:

January 9th, 2009 11:00

Sweet! So you're recommending I upgrade the PS before installing the 4870?

I would.  I just like to upgrade a piece of hardware one at a time just for troubleshooting purposes.  I something goes wrong after installing the PS (and it didn't in my install).....you can narrow the possible culprits.  Plus, with the additional power requirements of the 4870 dictates installation of the PS first.  Good luck!

 

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January 9th, 2009 14:00

Sweet! So you're recommending I upgrade the PS before installing the 4870?

I would.  I just like to upgrade a piece of hardware one at a time just for troubleshooting purposes.  I something goes wrong after installing the PS (and it didn't in my install).....you can narrow the possible culprits.  Plus, with the additional power requirements of the 4870 dictates installation of the PS first.  Good luck!

 

Cool thanks for clearing the 4870 power issue up.

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January 23rd, 2009 01:00

I just purchased a XPS Studio 435 with the following specifications.

K997M

12 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1066MHz (6 DIMMs)

X107J

512MB ATI Radeon HD 4850

D469F

640 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)

F083F

640 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM) 2nd drive

N270H

64BIT Operating System CD

U264H

64BIT Operating System DVD

TY819

Dell 19 in 1 Media Card Reader

J662D

Dell USB 6-Button Logitech Mouse

J019D

Documentation

P166F

Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

WN317

Hard Drive Cable

XM544

Image Restore Software

JM100

Information

D455M

Label

T013C

Microsoft Works 9.0

M516K

Mini Tower

55956

No Modem

54981

No Speakers

GM493

Operating System Label

N971H

Power Cord

X796G

Power DVD Software

F6406

RAID 0

H759K

Resource DVD

Y575C

Roxio Creator 10

M679K

Shipping Material

T730H

Single Drive: Blu-ray Disc (BD) Combo (Reads BD and Writes to DVD/CD)

Y425G

Software

JP927

Software

M433H

Software CD

T505J

Studio XPS 435 Desktop: Intel Core i7-940 Processor (8MB L3 Cache, 1MB L2 Cache, 2.93GHz)

P178K

Thermal MiniTower

T300C

USB Multimedia Keyboard

 

The day the system arrived, I scrapped everything accept the processor, ram, video card and Blue Ray player.  I only gave 850 dollars for the system from the Dell Outlet store.

Here is what I ended up with.

Intel Core 7 940 @2.93 OC to 4.5 on stock heatsink and fan
ASUS Rampage 2 X58 Mother Board
12MB DDR3 tri-channel ram set to 7 latency at 1066 1.65v
Thermaltake Tsunami aluminum mid tower case with side window
Thermaltake Tough Power PS 750w
Radeon 4850 OC to 120mghz
2 WD Veloraptor 300GB 10K RPM Drives Raid 0
2 WD Cavalier 640GB 7.2K RPM Drives Raid O
BlueRay DVD player / Record
HP DVD / CD RW LightScribe
Windows Vista Ultimate 64 Retail

With the MB, case, PS, drives and DVD, I spent another $1300 and some change.  Total investment is under $2200 and I will match it against any XPS out there for under $5k.  For what ever it is worth, the original case, MB and power supply are only good for one thing; TARGET PRACTICE.  I will agree with another post I read which stated that the ram and mother board are such new technology, they are probably built by some well known manufactures.  The problem with the mother board is that it literally has no room for expansion.  A SLI or Crossfire set up is not going to happen with that mother board.  The power supply has just enough power to handle the components that Dell sells them with.  The stock fan noise is so loud you will be tempted to pitch it the first day you own it, but what do you expect for a grand? My advice for you if your still in that 21 day period, send her back for a refund, browse the outlet site and wait to you see a smoking deal like I found, then buy the system for what it is worth, which is for its components.  There is no one out there that is gong to sell you a i7 940 processor, 12mb of DDR3 and a mother board for less than a grand.  Throw in the BlueRay player and two 640gb drives in to that picture and it is pretty easy to buy the system and pitch the garbage.

 

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