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June 14th, 2017 03:00

Correct M2 SSD for Alienware 17 R4

Hi,

I have an R4 arriving next week, and I want to get a second SSD here before it arrives.  I just can't find out which kind of ssd it needs.  There's a crucial m2 type 2280 on amazon at a nice price point with a B & M connector, but I just don't know if that is compatible.  It's the CT1050MX300SSD4 (wasn't sure if amazon links were allowed) if you want to search for it.

Can anyone confirm that this drive will work?

Thanks!

  • rotational

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    Posted June 14th, 2017 17:00

    As per Eimy's table above, you have two 2280 sockets and a 2260 socket.  All sockets support both SATA and NVMe mode; I am using a Samsung 960 EVO stick in NVMe mode as the only internal drive in my 17 R4, and it's most excellent.

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    Posted June 14th, 2017 07:00

    Going to partially answer my own question, in case anyone finds this via google.  It looks like a B&M connector is really a B *or* M connector and should fit either slot.  So it doesn't matter whether the laptop requires a B style connector or an M style connector, because a B&M will work with both.  It would be nice if someone added this to the wikipedia page.  Took me forever to find enough other forum posts to feel confident in this.

    But I'm still not sure about length.  2280 vs 2260.  Alienware17 R4 Setup and Specifications  says:

    • Two full-size M.2 PCIe/SATA drives
    • One half-size M.2 PCIe/SATA drive

    I'm assuming full-size means 2280.  But on a different site they have an actual R4 in their hands and are pointing out the hardware.  Inside Alienware 17 R4 – disassembly, internal photos and upgrade options  says

    The motherboard holds three M.2 PCIe NVMe-enabled SSD slots with one in our unit taken by a Toshiba M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD with 256GB capacity while the 2.5-inch HDD slot is taken by an HGST drive with 1TB capacity. The other two M.2 SSD slots are also PCIe NVMe-enabled but one of them is 2260 while the other supports the standard 2280 sizes.

    My *assumption* would be that the half-size drive is used with the standard sata, so if you ordered one of the ssd+sata versions it would raid 0 the normal 2.5 inch sata drive with the half-size ssd, so it looked like one drive with the os on the ssd for fast boots.  And the second and third drives would be for two full-size 2280 ssd.  But that's not the way the picture looks or their text reads.  Personally, I think their text could be clearer and I trust the pictures.

    Just want to confirm before I spend a bunch of money on ssd drives.

    Thanks!

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    Posted June 14th, 2017 08:00

    Hi jd142‌,

    This SSD has not been validated so unfortunately we cannot confirm functionality. You could also try posting this on the Notebook Review and Alienware Arena and see if maybe other users have already tested this SSD.

    Just in case thee following table shows the hard-drive options available in this computer.

     Hard drive options
    Options Dimensions
    HDD One 2.5-inch drive (SATA)
    SSD
    • Two full-size M.2 PCIe/SATA drives
    • One half-size M.2 PCIe/SATA drive
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    Posted June 14th, 2017 23:00

    jd142 wrote:

    Personally, I think their text could be clearer 

     

    You mean like stating it supports SATA and PCIe Interfaces on the M.2-Slot at the same time. Yeah, right. 

     

    While it's likely PCIe/NVMe, I suggest you wait for machine and buy another that matches its existing SSD's specs.

     

    Let us know what you find and what works. 

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    Posted June 22nd, 2017 12:00

    Ok, found a good video ( New Alienware 17 R4: Upgrade/Replace M.2 Solid State Drive - YouTube ) that walks through and I was able to get a look.  Plus the laptop arrived and I could look at it as well.  I figured since there were 2 of the full socket open, I'd be fine with that.

    - One 2280 socket is taken up by an hgst.com 1 TB 7200 rpm sata.  Replaced with a crucial 2TB ssd, Crucial MX300 2TB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive - CT2050MX300SSD1 

    - One 2280 socket was open.  I put in a Crucial 1 TB stick,Crucial MX300 1TB M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive (CT1050MX300SSD4) 

    - One 2260 socket was open.  Nothing yet.  In 2 years I'll probably be able to get a 5 TB stick for have the price of the 1 TB.

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    Posted July 21st, 2017 01:00

    Thank you for the info!  This is my first time into the mini SSD size hard drives and I was curious too to for these specs.   The manual could do so much better in letting us know the SSD types that go in.

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    Posted August 17th, 2017 13:00

    I've got dual 960evos in raid0 and love 'em as well.

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    Posted August 17th, 2017 14:00

    Exactly - I couldn't find confirmation either so I just bought em and hoped for the best.  It's not like they're that expensive, so easy gamble.  I configured mine without an SSD knowing "aftermarket" ones would cost less than half, but my 17r4 ran like CRAP with a spindle drive only.  I almost returned it, it was that bad.  Slower than my 2014 17x - but I (correctly) guessed is was because no SSD....  

    I love this thing now, it's a beast.

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    Posted August 17th, 2017 14:00

    compugeek5150 wrote:

    I've got dual 960evos in raid0 and love 'em as well.

    Thanks for the confirmation.

      

    I was 99% sure they should work ... like why wouldn't they? 

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    - Like many of you, I can appreciate a good game-engine.
    - I answer questions here, but I'm not a Dell employee.
    - Consider giving posts you like a "thumbs-up"
    - Posting models-numbers and software versions speeds trouble-shooting.
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    Posted August 17th, 2017 14:00

    oh, if anyone finds a half length nvme, I'm really interested!  I couldn't find one on amazon, but honestly I haven't had time to dig.