AW2725DF, VRR issues

I've had issues with stutter myself on my AW2725DF and it's driving me crazy. Running it at 120hz instead of 240hz or 360hz seems to clear up most of the stutter but it still doesn't feel right. I even tested it against a CRT, yes, an ancient tube monitor also at 120hz and there was immediately a difference - completely buttery smooth 120hz/fps on ufotest.com, while the motion on AW2725DF seemed to feel not quite as smooth, like frames weren't quite being paced right.

What I plan on trying next to see if there's something off on my end is replacing my DisplayPort cable and also trying HDMI to see if it makes a difference. It would be nice if it does, but I still think it should just work right in the first place, considering it's the cable that shipped with the monitor, a $900 monitor at that.

AW2721D is native G-sync + Freesync Compatible, no VESA listed.

AW2725DF is native Freesync Premium Pro + VESA, does not list if it's g-sync compatible

If you are using the AW2725DF on an Nvidia card with G-sync on, that might cause the issues.

I would try without G-sync enabled, to see if it makes a difference.

@infoxicated​ Yeah I get this on this monitor on utfotest too regardless of vrr being on or not it’s so strange, I’ve tried 2 different cables now so I don’t think it’s the issue

@Vanadiel​ I already know this information. Vesa vrr is platform agnostic so it shouldn’t matter if the GPU is Nvidia or AMD the vrr would work in the exact same way no matter the verifications that Dell decided to go for as it doesn’t change how the vrr was implemented, so it has nothing to do with the fact I’m using gsync.

I also have an older AMD based PC and the monitor behaves the exact same way with it, even though it’s ‘Freesync Premium Pro’. If a monitor is sold as having adaptive sync as a feature it should work properly, turning off the feature is not a solution.

@Vanadiel​ Disabling G-sync didn't resolve the issue with stutter. In fact, it was slightly worse with it off in my testing. Games, Test UFO, and SmoothFrog were used. I've tried using both DP inputs, a new DP cable that I can verifiably say is high quality and works without issue. I tried HDMI as well with G-sync turned on and off, different refresh rates, even 60hz with 10bit and 12bit, and the stutter and pacing issues continued. I even tried a different system with an AMD GPU and the issues still persisted. I should also note that I used to have a Samsung branded QD OLED monitor, the G8, and it had these same exact issues. And again, the stutter is not present and pacing is absolutely perfect on every other LCD or CRT monitor I've tried, which currently stands at 4 different CRT monitors (collecting CRTs is a side hobby), and 3 different LCD monitors, one of them being a Dell branded one. It may also be worth pointing out that the CRTs are connected using a DP to VGA adapter, a very cheap one, and there is no stutter at all.

My friend also has an AW3423DWF and the same exact stuttering and pacing issues are present. I also briefly tested a AW3225QF, again, with the same issues. I am completely convinced there are underlying issues with the display panel driver boards in products using QD OLED panels.

If there are any specific procedures I can follow to further look into this issue please do let me know. I could try to record the monitor with these tests running from my iPhone in its 240 FPS high speed mode to try and illustrate that there is in fact frame pacing issues no matter what settings or cables you use.

I have used 4 different AW3423DWF on both a 3080 and a 7900XTX. I had no issues with frame pacing and my frame pacing is very consistent in both D4 and Last Epoch. D4 runs at 165 FPS and Last Epoch at 100 FPS without any micro stuttering and at a very steady FPS and frame rate.

I do not use Freesync Premium Pro because I have a perfectly stable frame rate.

@infoxicated​ I actually own an AW3423DWF for atleast 1 year now and NEVER experience what im exxperiencing with the AW25725DF, 100% with the new monitors but i dont know to keep it or return it lol 

Hello there i encouter the same issue here with a 240hz panel, AW3225QF, already have a AW3423DW.

The point is this kind of panel, very high refresh rate, will go crazy with VRR (= wild flickering) due to their max range => 240 & 360Hz if you can't keep you're frame rate as close as possible to their refresh rate.

Set you're panel at 120hz => refresh rate may still bounce a lot but at a far less degree = flicker mostly gone.

Would be helpful to know what video card drives these monitors. Any high fresh refresh monitor, like 240 Hz or 360 Hz refresh rate will need a matching video card to drive the display consistently at those frame rates.

And it will always be butter smooth on a CRT as they work completely different than LCD or OLED screens.

Really sorry to necro this post but were any of you ever able to find a solution? I’ve been running the monitor at 120 with a frame cap in RTSS of 120 since that seems to smooth it out but for 900 dollars I really shouldn’t have to do all of that. 

@Crysg1210​ This might not help you but what’s worked for me is disabling nvidia reflex in games, I’m not sure why it’s made games smoother for me on this monitor but it’s the only thing that’s helped.