Unsolved
1 Rookie
•
112 Posts
0
1553
December 22nd, 2020 23:00
R11 delivery pushed back
I have a conundrum. My order for the Aurora R11 with Windows 10 Pro and the following hardware is being delayed and I am not sure I want or can wait. This is my R11 configuration:
CPU Liquid Cooling & the 1000 watt PSU
Liquid Cooled NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 (OC Ready)
10th Gen Intel Core i9 10900KF (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 3.7GHz to 5.3GHz w/Thermal Velocity Boost) 1TB M2 NMVe *I have my own NVMe and SSD drives to install
8GB DDR4 *I'm replacing this with DDR4 3200 128GB so I skimped as much as I could.
4 years on-site service with accidental coverage
Totaled 2,800 excluding the memory and storage I have.
OR
I can buy the parts and assemble a desktop m yself much sooner than waiting for this Alienware.
I worked out the following rig:
be quiet! Dark Base PRO 900 Orange Rev. 2, Full Tower ATX
ASUS ROG Rampage VI Extreme Encore, X299 LGA 2066 E-ATX Gaming Motherboard for Intel Core X
Intel Core i9-10920X Desktop Processor 12 Cores up to 4.8GHz Unlocked LGA2066 X299 Series 165W
Thermaltake Toughpower 1500W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular PSU
Fractal Design Celsius+ S36 Prisma Liquid CPU Cooler
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB OEM GDDR6 Graphics Card
All in, those parts will cost the same, $2800
I won't have any DELL memory I'm not using so I can put in the 128GB I have, the mobo actually supports twice that which is nice. I won't have the 1TB drive from DELL so I'll have to get one or just be down that TB.
So, would you opt to wait for the R11 or just build this rig. Since my experience having my R11 fixed for the one and only time in the 4 years I've owned it isn't going well, the DELL warranty has lost some of its appeal.


Citizen_MM
41 Posts
0
December 23rd, 2020 04:00
In the Dell build, the 2 things I would question most, as an outside observer, is your choice of video card and your intended memory upgrade. First, the 2080 Super doesn't really need liquid cooling, even in our tiny case (IMO), and the fact that it's a 2080, when the 3080 is only $100 more and is much more stout for gaming. Second, RAM upgrades for the R series desktops can be hit or miss, depending on brand and speed. You may find that the ram you have simply won't work in this PC. There is a memory guide for them somewhere but I can't seem to find it at the moment.
That aside, it's your money and only you know what your day-to-day needs are.
ZenicaPA
1 Rookie
•
112 Posts
0
December 23rd, 2020 07:00
The memory I chose has been used by others with success, plus the company itself listed it as compatible with the R11. It's an obstacle I can work around, should the unanticipated happen.
I selected the 2080 liquid cooled because I intend to OC it and I became enamored with the idea of liquid cooling, the quieter operation and potential for more stable cooler processor temps.
In hind sight, I'd pick the 3080 but the deal I got when I ordered it is gone so a re-order would cost about $500 more. My DIY didn't include the 3080 for well known reasons---availability.
Which would you rather have, the R11 or the DIY config I selected? and would you actually do a DIY rig?
LDDiamond
1 Rookie
•
24 Posts
0
December 23rd, 2020 07:00
If I can build DIY at same price or cheaper I'd go DIY.
Cyber Monday I got a r10 for a lot cheaper than I could of built.
CraigRGB
14 Posts
0
December 23rd, 2020 08:00
I ordered the same system as you with the exception of the gpu. I ordered the RTX 3080. I placed my order December 5th for an estimated delivery of December 23rd, but it was delivered to me on December 20th.
If I had it to do over again I would have built my own rig. Your proposed build will give you a large case to keep everything cool (the R11 is a small case with everything crammed very tightly together) and your motherboard will give you lots of possibilities for upgrades. The gpu in the R11 takes up all but one pci slot and I was going to put a USB 3 pcie card into that slot but it would butt up close to the exhaust fans of the RTX 3080.
Dell would have been better off putting a blower gpu into these rigs. Exhausting the gpu heat inside the small case creates a lot of heat. There is so much heat coming out of the top case fan that I don't need to put the heat on in my basement, and it is 0 degrees here. I also can't get the Killer E3000 network card to deliver more than half the 1gbps speed of my router. My previous rig sat in the same spot connected by the same ethernet cable to the same router, so I can't figure out the 480 - 520 mbps speeds I'm getting.
ZenicaPA
1 Rookie
•
112 Posts
0
December 23rd, 2020 08:00
I kept the price the same because that was what I expected to pay DELL. I'm not certain if my DIY system is a comparable system, component wise, mainly because of the motherboard. I don't have any info on the mobo DELL uses. The CPU in my DIY configuration has a negligible gain with cores/threads but a slightly lower clock speed. The case, PSU, memory and storage are null for this equation.
Citizen_MM
41 Posts
0
December 23rd, 2020 13:00
@ZenicaPA I'd almost always choose the DIY over a prebuilt...but the R10 or R11 is a pretty good deal overall, which is why I chose the R10 Ryzen back in April. It's my first prebuilt since 1999 or so. If you can afford to wait, I'd say stick with the R11. You can always upgrade components later as the need arises.
ZenicaPA
1 Rookie
•
112 Posts
0
December 23rd, 2020 17:00
I like your solution. That's a nice setup. I am expecting a call from DELL to see what can be done, to either change it or reorder it without losing the discounts but switching the GPU to the 3080. I do like the DIY approach, in that I built it, I installed everything and I know it inside and out. I'll have a better idea after I talk with DELL.
What cooler is that? and what GPU?
ZenicaPA
1 Rookie
•
112 Posts
0
December 24th, 2020 07:00
I ended up ordering a new R11, the same config and the original rig but with the 3080 instead of the liquid cooled 2080. I'd have gone the route of the DIY if I could find the 3080 anywhere on planet Earth but aside from the sphincter douche bags on eBay marking them up 200%, every retailer and grey market seller is sold out.
I could have stuck with my DIY and the 2080 I found but I decided against it. In the mean time, I'll play around with the 2080 liquid cooled R11 when it comes to tide me over till rig #2 comes.
So, next up: looking to liquid cool the 3080 with an external cooler.
ZenicaPA
1 Rookie
•
112 Posts
0
December 24th, 2020 10:00
So a block made for an MSI GPU won't fit the DELL GPU?
Given the reports I've read about the non Nvidia cards having fewer capacitors (or some other smd) I wanted to have the card run as cool as possible. Is there a dedicated area of the forum to the 3080 and liquid cooling it?
bra51776
1 Rookie
•
91 Posts
0
December 24th, 2020 10:00
@ZenicaPA
Probably not official ones, as Dell has said there will be liquid cooled options for the 3080/90, but no actual data has been dug up or released with actual specs.
But the private community is very ingenious, I'm sure there are threads somewhere with DIY options.