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November 16th, 2022 14:00

x17 R2, keyboard working only in BIOS?

Alienware x17 R2

Alienware x17 R2

Hi, in the past 2 weeks I faced many problems with my x17 R2 keyboard. The last Friday I thought I got the problem fixed after doing a clean install of Windows 11 and a fresh install of every needed driver / firmware / BIOS (1.9.1). But today the problem reoccurred and I wasted my whole working day trying to find again a definitive solution. I need my working computer functional as soon as I can.

After many trials I can say that a fresh install of Windows most of the time results in the keyboard working just sporadically, sometimes you are able to set the initial PIN / mail / passwords, sometimes not, the firmware update (V26, 11/14) isn’t doing much and most of the time it will result in a FAIL result since the keyboard is not detected and appearing as an unknown USB device under device manager. I got it to work in two different occasion with a PASS result but it didn’t change anything.

As many other stated in older posts I guess it’s a bios / firmware problem rather than a hardware failure. The keyboard works flawlessly if I enter any key inside the BIOS (for instance I tried to set a random admin password in the security tab). Another thing is the fn+f1 key that seems to be working after some try even if the keyboard is completely unresponsive.

It’s worth noting that I tried also the sleep > wake up > uninstall USB > detect device work around mentioned in other posts but it doesn’t work in my unit.

I really hope I’m not the only one facing similar problems and that a fix is coming in the way. The only solution I’m seeing is buying an external keyboard in the meanwhile. Not exactly what I was planning when I decided to buy this Alienware.

Dell tech support told me that they would like to replace the motherboard and the keyboard but I’m not liking the idea of replacing half of my €5000 laptop after 6 month of usage.

If I can help providing any more detail about my experience just ask me, or if you found any other workaround for the x17 R2 you could help me out a lot.

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November 16th, 2022 15:00

At this point I would let Dell Support do their thing and replace the motherboard and keyboard. That's why you have a warranty. 

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November 18th, 2022 09:00

They replaced keyboard and motherboard on my X17 R1 to resolve the same issue and it re-occured after a couple days. I'm going to install Windows 10 and then install the Keyboard Firmware patch that was released specifically for this issue. Sadly, there is no patch for Windows 11 because Dell seems to have trouble seeing that it is still an issue. That happens when your head is in a certain orrifice.

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November 18th, 2022 09:00

Thank you very much for your response. They told me this is the same solution but I'll not acept a replaced motherboard / keyboard on a brand new €5000 computer, I have been quite explit about this with them and asked a whole new computer if they are planning to give me ANY new hardware on my hands. 

 

Let's be real, we are paying big money for a top end laptop, in my case it's just 6 month old, of course you should expect a top end service and a replacement if you would call ANY hardware failure, I'm not paying this much money for a refurbished computer that this one is going to become after being "fixed".

 

Even after all this mess I'm quite convinced it is a firmware / bios problem, at the moment I just bought another keyboard that I'm placing above my palmrest, quite stupid for what I spent, but.. Meh, I guess that the only thing we can do is wait for an update / new computer (that anyway as far as I am concerned will be needing the same updates sooner or later)

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November 20th, 2022 08:00

Hi @Armando V welcome to this free user-to-user Alienware laptop discussion forum. 

When integrated keyboard works in BIOS and not in Microsoft Windows visit Device Manager and delete keyboard's unknown USB device, then Restart (not Shut Down). During Restart, windows should replace missing keyboard driver. 

With external keyboard, please phone Get Support using number within SupportAssist (Freephone), click on Get Help Now (onscreen icon), visit your online Dell account to create Service Request, or click on Dell Technical Support to get online session to fix software problems. 

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March 6th, 2023 00:00

Hi! I am having the  exact same issue, on an Alienware m15 R7. Did the Windows 10 downgrade work for you? I had no idea there was a patch for windows 10.

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March 10th, 2023 14:00

You;re not the only one, I own x15r2 and met this problem after 2 months usage^^, I also make many topics to get help and figure out a resolution, but no  hope.  And now my laptop out of warranty, and they never realeased or do anything to fix this, very bad serivce, we waist our money, this is the first and will be the last I use this brand

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March 10th, 2023 14:00

I’m sorry to hear that guys, I got the problem “fixed”, if that’s how I should call it, by having the whole computer replaced with a new unit.

 

I’m still thinking there has to be some firmware / software error that got some of our keyboards stop working around December, I don’t know if it is related to windows, to the cherry keyboard (the one I got) or directly to dell, but my guess is that they also have no clue so it’s easier to replace the keyboard / motherboard or the whole computer if asked.

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May 1st, 2023 08:00

After using the laptop for a little over a year, I noticed that the keyboard was not functioning properly. I contacted Dell customer service to inquire about getting the keyboard repaired, but I was informed that I would have to pay for the repair, as well as for shipping costs, even though the laptop is less than 2 years.

I was extremely disappointed to hear this, as I had expected better from a company like Dell and a premium product like the Alienware XPS x17 R2. I paid a premium price for this laptop and I believe that it should function properly for a reasonable amount of time without requiring repairs.

I would like to request that Dell provide a resolution to this issue. I would appreciate it if Dell could repair or replace the keyboard at no cost to me, or offer a reasonable solution that will allow me to use my laptop without having to pay additional fees.

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May 18th, 2023 16:00

I am also having this issue on my X17 R2 (also with cherry mechanical keyboard). I'm not sure exactly when it started as I typically use a separate mouse and keyboard, but I noticed it about a week ago when I was packing up for a trip (I ended up having to bring a keyboard with me).

I'm not sure I agree this thread should be flagged as 'Solved'. Everyone around the web seems pretty much in agreement that this is a software/driver issue. Replacing hardware is not a solution for software issues. 

I hope Dell comes out with a patch for Windows 11 users because I am a month past warranty.

May 23rd, 2023 13:00

I encountered this issue on an Alienware x17 R2. It was brought into us because the keyboard suddenly stopped working. The keyboard completely passed the Dell Diagnostics in the bios and worked flawlessly before any kind of OS boot.

I reinstalled Windows 11 with a fresh install and was able to get the keyboard to work (albeit strangely) until some series of updates ran and it ceased to function again. I was then never able to get it to work again.

As a means of troubleshooting I decided to try installing Windows 10 (again a fresh install) and test it there. I was unable to get the KB to work there (this was all done with an external) but after running all the Dell updates (namely the Intel HID drivers etc) I ran an in place upgrade to 11. This allowed for the keyboard to work from the start. Even during the setup the keyboard worked flawlessly (during a normal fresh install you have to use an external because there is no driver available for the keyboard). 

Once the system was done updating to 11, and even after all the updates were installed (including the Alienware Command Center) everything worked perfectly. 

I suspect that there is some very horrible driver issue going on with the Intel HID device stack that is associated with this keyboard that needs to be resolved and Dell needs to investigate this. Considering how many people there are with these issues (based upon internet searches it's thousands) this problem is going to get worse, not better. Replacing the keyboard is likely not the answer. I suspect that might be fixing the problem in some cases only be changing the GUID in windows and performing a clean device reinstall. 

Just my input. Hopefully this helps someone.

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June 12th, 2023 13:00

"I'm experiencing an issue with my x17 r2 keyboard: it doesn't work with Windows 11, but it does work in BIOS. This is a serious inconvenience. Regrettably, because I'm located in Ukraine, I can't access full support or a replacement. So now, I'm forced to use my old MSI ge75 laptop and 16" MacBook. Thank you for your 'elite' product.

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June 15th, 2023 06:00

UPD: After Windows update and sometimes after reboot the keyboard may start to work. Magic.

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July 8th, 2023 08:00

agree with you, this thread shouldnt be flagged as" Solved" , nothing solved here, and I been wating more than 1 year for the update to fix this problem and got nothing from Dell, very very disappointed

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July 10th, 2023 16:00

same here, opened another thread to search for solution

Dell support is clueless and they want money to replace the keyboard as i'm out of warranty, ofc i will not do it but it's crazy that i have to deal with this stuff with a 4k $ notebook

 

Extremely disappointed with Dell, i would have never thought to receive such response from an high end company and high end product

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October 4th, 2023 23:25

I am having the same issue. Keyboard worked fine for a long time, then just stopped. Works in bios with no issues, external keyboard works fine.

I did notice the following error in the event logs:

Device settings for USB\VID_0000&PID_0002\5&15d4f9a0&0&9 were not migrated from previous OS installation due to partial or ambiguous device match.

Last Device Instance Id: USB\VID_1908&PID_0226\6&209ecaa2&1&1
Class Guid: {36fc9e60-c465-11cf-8056-444553540000}
Location Path: 
Migration Rank: 0xF000FFFFFFFFF102
Present: false
Status: 0xC0000719

I also noticed that I now have an in the device manager, I have an Unknown USB Device (Device Descriptor Request Failed ) which I believe is related to the above error. 

I have tried to remove all the USB devices and let it rebuild during boot. Nothing seems to have worked. 

I have not tried a OS rebuild, which is my next step. But it seems clear this started after some windows update in the recent past. 

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