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June 12th, 2013 11:00
Cannot access CIFS shares after installing 2008R2 server.
I've deployed a new Windows 2008R2 server in an existing domain with 2 other non-R2 2008 DCs, but my users are having trouble accessing a the EMC fileshare when they are connected to this new server. They cannot access other non EMC shares just fine.
Does anyone have any ideas on what could be wrong?
Here are some details:
1. New server has roles of DNS, DHCP and AD and looks successful from DNS test and from replication of DHCP and AD from other servers.
2. Our celerra file share is named "fileserv" and when users tried to access it through existing drive mapping, they get prompted for Windows Credentials and says "Access is Denied".
3. If I try to access by running \\fileserv, they get the same error.
4. ping tests to fileserv and ip address are successful.
5. If I try to access by running \\ipaddress, they get the same error.
6. "fileserv" name in DNS actually points to same ip address as "emc-san1" (another alias)
7. If I try to access files by using \\emc-san1 , shares ARE accessible and normal.
8. If I try the "net use" cmd, I see that the existing drive mappings to "fileserv" say they are Unavailable.
8. We have load balancing dhcp servers and only users connected to this dhcp server (the new R2 server) are getting this error. Users still connected to the older non-r2 servers are connecting just fine.
9. I even just tried creating a new DNS record called "testserv" and tried to access file shares via \\testserv and get the same error.
10. Just ungraded the software on the celerra from 5.6.47 to 6 and I'm still getting this issue.
11. We have a printer here that has the Scan to File option where it will scan a document and upload it our fileserver while connecting to it via SMB. This feature no longer works after introducing this R2 server into our domain.
12. It's bugging me because ONLY access to the EMC is wonky. All non EMC shares work fine. If I reboot the R2 server, affected users will work for a little while, but then some users can't connect anymore. It almost seems like it is intermittent, or there is a connection limit and then blocks more users.
For the current workaround, I'm remapping to the "emc-san1" for my users to access files.
Note: I still want my users to ultimately connect to fileserv instead of emc-san1 because we might be removing the emc san soon and I can point "fileserv" to the new storage device.
Any ideas on this?


JAssociates
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August 8th, 2013 09:00
Thanks....found this while searching around for ETA158629..
"
Fix
To allow the CIFS server alias to function just as the normal CIFS server name, certain actions must be taken. First, a CNAME DNS alias must be created in DNS. Then the workaround for Celerra ETA emc158629 must be applied.
After, the SPNs will have to be generated on the domain controller by a domain administrator. If Windows 2008 is used, the command prompt must be run as administrator because of User Account Control
Fix
To allow the CIFS server alias to function just as the normal CIFS server name, certain actions must be taken. First, a CNAME DNS alias must be created in DNS. Then the workaround for Celerra ETA emc158629 must be applied.
After, the SPNs will have to be generated on the domain controller by a domain administrator. If Windows 2008 is used, the command prompt must be run as administrator because of User Account Control
"
Does that look right to you? I was searching for ETA emc158629 and couldn't find instructions on how to apply this. Could you help me with that?
Also, what is this thing about generating SPNs? Is that needed?
kajibade
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August 9th, 2013 05:00
Greetings,
There is a linked KB article 11282 on how to create SPN's on the Widows machines connecting to the aliased CIFS server
https://emc--c.na5.visual.force.com/apex/KB_HowTo?id=kA0700000004ITb
Peter_EMC
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August 12th, 2013 04:00
ETA emc158629 is https://emc--c.na5.visual.force.com/apex/KB_ETA?id=kA37000000000G6
The command to disable strict name checking on the datamover is:
$ server_param server_2 -f cifs -m LanmanServer.disableNameChecking -v 1
A datamover reboot is needed after changing this parameter
JAssociates
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August 12th, 2013 09:00
Thanks @Peter_EMC
Changed the value last night and rebooted the data mover.
After doing so, I went back to my DCs and restarted the AD service. Unfortunately, 15 minutes later, the error came back up.
Checked the Celerra one more time to make sure my changes were in place:
$ server_param server_2 -f cifs -info LanmanServer.disableNameChecking -v
server_2 :
name = LanmanServer.disableNameChecking
facility_name = cifs
default_value = 0
current_value = 1
configured_value = 1
user_action = reboot DataMover
change_effective = reboot DataMover
range = (0,1)
description = Disables checking of the server's principal name of the client's kerberos ticket.
detailed_description
When set to 1, this parameter disables the control of the server's principal name of the client's kerberos ticket. The client is then allowed to connect with a DNS alias (please refer to Microsoft article 281308). When set to 0, the client is only allowed to connect using the primary computer name.
$
Do you have any other ideas, or do I have to set/verify something else on some other side of things?
Rainer_EMC
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August 12th, 2013 12:00
IMHO at this point your best way to get this resolved is to take a network trace when the problem is happening and turn it over to EMC support via a service request
JAssociates
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August 12th, 2013 13:00
Yeah…tried that. They keep asking for support materials and I keep sending it over. They really aren’t that much help! Argh! I swear, this forum is wayyy more useful than them!
JAssociates
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August 12th, 2013 13:00
Looked into this EMC eta a lil bit more and it says that, “This solution is only applicable if SPNs were manually added for DNS aliases.” Which I have never created. But it was a valiant effort!
For kicks, I tried to manually created these SPNs so that this eta would be the fix, but when I try to create a SPN record, I get:
C:\Users\admin>setspn -R fileserver
FindDomainForAccount: DsGetDcNameWithAccountW failed!
Could not find account fileserver
Any other ideas?
Thanks again!
Peter_EMC
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August 12th, 2013 23:00
Please follow Kolas advice (Posting 32) and read KB article 11282 aka emc204608 how to create SPN's on the Windows machines connecting to the aliased CIFS server
setspn -R is the wrong option (it is reseting a SPN)
Seems like reseting a non existing SPN is not working.
The -L will list all SPNs
> setspn -L ja-sm-storage1
Analyze the output, you need to create the records starting with cifs and host manually, replacing the ja-sm-storage1 with your alias fileserver. I guess this will be 4 entries to create (2 cifs and 2 host, fully qualified and unqualified)
use the -A to create the alias, one example would be
> setspn -A host/fileserver ja-sm-storage1
Create all needed alias SPNs!
Create an alias ("fileserver") also on the datamover (see server_cifs command), the command would be like (no line breaks!):
$ server_cifs server_2 -add
compname=ja-sm-storage1,domain=MyNetwork.NET,alias=fileserver,interface=Production_Interface_0
JAssociates
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August 22nd, 2013 13:00
Thanks for the suggestions Peter...this is what I've done so far..
1. Read 11282 and listed out my SPNs. Here is my result:
C:>setspn -L ja-sm-storage1
Registered ServicePrincipalNames for CN=ja-sm-storage1,OU=Computers,OU=EMC Celerra,DC=MyNetwork,DC=net:
cifs/ja-sm-storage1.mynetwork.net
cifs/ja-sm-storage1
host/ja-sm-storage1.mynetwork.net
host/ja-sm-storage1
2. Then created additional host and cifs SPNs, according to the article. (BTW, in the KB, it shows NFS SPNs. Is that necessary?)
host/fileserver.mynetwork.net
host/fileserver
cifs/fileserver
cifs/fileserver.mynetwork.net
3. Created the alias you suggested in your previous comment
So what I noticed now, is that clients will be able to connect to the share via \\fileserver but will NOT be able to access the share via \\IPAddress still. Why is that the case?
Also, we have a Xerox network printer that has a 'Scan to network' feature that uses SMB to scan to \\fileserver\scans but still cannot access that share.
The current workaround is the turn off my newest AD server and everything will work just fine.
Peter_EMC
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August 23rd, 2013 01:00
When using \\IP, then Kerberos is not used (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322979 ) but the old NTLM
I assume your AD is configured only for using kerberos but not NTLM.
For your "Scan to network" issue.
What Port do you use? 445?
What login credentials did you configure? I think "Authenticated User and Domain" is the way to go.
(domain name in CAPS)
Verify the access of this user by mapping the share and writing a file as this user.
JAssociates
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August 26th, 2013 16:00
Do you know where/how to check to see if my network is not configured for NTLM?
A big concern for me is that why does my network and cifs access work perfectly fine with only one of my original DCs powered on? \\ip address, \\alias, and \\storage name all work just fine and no users have problems. Scanner works fine too!
But as soon I as turn on AD services on any new DC (I've tried with more than 1 DC), the access problems will start to come up.
Head scratcher, but thanks for all the help thus far!
Peter_EMC
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August 26th, 2013 22:00
From your first posts:
"I've deployed a new Windows 2008R2 server in an existing domain with 2 other non-R2 2008 DCs,"
You are exploring the differences between 2008R2 DCs and older ones.
If you do not want this, than do not use 2008 R2, but the same "non-R2 2008" OS.
JAssociates
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August 26th, 2013 23:00
Yeah, that makes sense. I wanted to isolate the issue, so I unretired an old NON R2 server to see if the issue is still around, and it is.
I didn’t technically unretire it though. With my older non R2 server, I pretty much just removed DC roles when I say I ‘retired’ it. When I unretired it, I just re-added DC roles (AD, DNS, and DHCP) without reinstalling any software. But the issue happens when that server’s AD services are started. If I stop the services, thereby only using 1 DC (the original), the issue goes away…
I wonder if you introduce a new DC to the environment (which I kind of did), if I have to configure something with the Celerra or change some GPO setting?
Peter_EMC
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August 27th, 2013 01:00
what windows version is this unretired server using and what version is the old server using
What version on the server is running in the "working domain" and what versions are no longer working?
JAssociates
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August 27th, 2013 01:00
Both servers are running Windows Server 2008 non R2…we don’t have any DCs running anything earlier than that.
Old server (server 1) : non R2
Unretired (server 2) : non R2
New (server 3) : R2.
For now, I’ve shut off server 3 and only dealing with server 1 & 2 to eliminate any type of R2 interference..