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July 23rd, 2008 03:00

Document RAIDGROUP/LUN layout

Hi All,

We currently run 8 CX3-80 SANs and we would like to document our RAIDGROUP/LUN layout over the DAE's in some graphical way...

Looking back in the history of this forum, I notice several users have the same question and a couple of solutions come up:

1) CAP2 tool (Apparently can analyse SPCollects and make an overview)
2) EMC Control Center with StorageScope
3) VisualSRM
4) ReportClariion

As it seems, most (If not all) of those tools are not available for download for end-users :(

Does anybody have a suggestion or a tool that could solve our documentation problem?

Our environment is forever changing, and keeping track of all the changes and what is available and what not is quite hard...

Hope you guys might have some sugggestions :)

With kind regards,

Fred

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July 23rd, 2008 04:00

I am under the assumption that CAP is available for customers. I use it regularly and do a Save to .xls format.
It's a great tool for all CX arrays and specifically for those arrays that are not CX3's.

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July 23rd, 2008 04:00

I would say CAP2 is the way to go, but that one is indeed for partners only.

In the pre-CAP days I simply had a spreadsheet which I changed every time there was a change, but I must admit, that if 1 person forget to document anything, tghe whole sheet is more or less useless.

About half a year ago there was a post where sombody posted a URL with a self written tool which documents Clariions. I tried to locate this thread for you, but I couldn't find it. It was a combination of batchfiles and a spreadsheet. I couldn't get it to work, bit I'm pretty sure it's a minor thing which needs to be fixed in Excel 2007 to get it working.... if only you can find the thread.

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July 23rd, 2008 04:00

from our CE but I thought I saw it available via Powerlink.
HEAT is also available:
https://servicetools.emc.com/heat.php

to me CAP is indispensable and me having it makes my CE's life that much easier.

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July 23rd, 2008 04:00

There is a spreadsheet produced by Jay J. Wersits of EMC called clariion designer that lets you describe your environment and the layout, which can be manually updated later as your array changes.
I don't know if its generally available to customers though, but its not commercially sensitve so it should be.
The other option is to dust off your scripting and do some navicli getall's (or a subset to get the parameters you want) from your arrays and process the output.
We tend to pre-configure our cx's so we know the layout and have that scripted and placed in an excel spreadsheet which we maintain.
cheers
Phill

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July 23rd, 2008 04:00

Where did you get the tool ? Did your CE provided it to you ? AFAIK a customer cannot download it anywhere.

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July 23rd, 2008 05:00

I actually went back over 111 pages of history in this forum and only found references to the tools I mentioned...

I guess it must have been longer ago :(

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July 23rd, 2008 05:00

Hi Jimbo,

I've opened a case with EMC to see if I can get it from them...

We'll see ;)

Fred

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July 23rd, 2008 05:00

We've implemented ECC + Perfomance mananger + storage scope...

It's a very big tool, very complex but very useful....

but be carefull to the EMC support matrix!

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July 23rd, 2008 06:00

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July 23rd, 2008 06:00

Hi Riker82,

Thanks for your answer...

Can you tell me however if ECC with StorageScope indeed makes the report we need?

We simply need a graphical view of each DAE with 15 disks, showing the RAIDGROUPS in a certain colour and the LUNs/Freespace within that RAIDGROUP

Does it do that? I'd be very interested in buying ECC if it can do that.

I've looked around for screenshots that show if it can do that, but I can find them :(

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July 23rd, 2008 06:00

I also run ECC and it's corresponding Performance Manager. WLA/Performance Manager is great. I also started using Symmetrix Management Console (SMC) and coupled with ECC, I get all the data I need on our DMX. ECC is primarily for managing our DMX and reporting for us. I snapped in all our EMC arrays but use native tools to manage them.
ie: I use Navisphere to manage our Clariions and Fabric Manager to manage our Cisco SAN.

I ran Visual SRM against our Celerra environment but honestly, found it diffficult to generate the reports I needed. Storage Scope is nice but we don't deploy the ECC Agents too often as it's too much admin management for the benefit we receive - thus we don't get enough data to make is worthwhile.

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July 23rd, 2008 06:00

Hi Riker,

Interesting, and close to what I mean...

We used to have a tool that produced pictures like the one I linked below...

http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n428/Fredster2008/LUNLayout.jpg

The advantage is that you can see how much free space a RAIDGROUP still has, and which LUNs are present...

Is that report from ECC 6.0??? As I understand 6.1 will soon be released...

Fred

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July 23rd, 2008 06:00

Nope.... it was not that long ago..... Maybe in the end of 2007, but I'm pretty certain it was in 2008.

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July 23rd, 2008 06:00

that looks nice ..how did you generate this ?

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July 24th, 2008 01:00

CAP does exactly that. Isn't there a way you can ask your CE to help you with this ? I see you're based in Tilburg, very near to where I am (globally speaking). So call Bull or even EMC directly to come to some sort of agreement, because of what I read in your posts... really: CAP is what you need.

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