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December 4th, 2015 19:00

boot from flash drive on a dimension 3000

xpsp3, fully updated, dell dimension 3000


I have booted from the flash drive once a long time ago, and would like to do it again now since my cd drive is not doing well according to imgburn and dell does not have any to buy, I have looked. :)

The only question about this in my search of this forum was 10 years ago, and the op had no satisfaction.

Steps I have taken: flash drive will boot laptops (dell), so it is good, will load files on the 3000, then get to to point of Windows is starting up, and then I get a blue screen 07B, no file listed, just telling me to uninstall a driver or controller, I have not installed one, :)

any ideas??

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December 11th, 2015 05:00

INSTALLING Full XP onto USB flash as a boot drive is not supported.

Hirens is WINPE not full XP.  XP is not and will not be supported as a USB boot and run everything option.

You have to make an actual hard drive your boot disk.

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December 12th, 2015 14:00

XP must be installed from onboard or USB DVD drive.

Installing from USB is not really an option.

While you could get it to work with a WIN98 Boot USB with Himem.sys and Smartdrv.exe and the entire I386 directory from a Real XP CD it would not OEM install and would require a COA Key.

While this can be done I'm not going to get into the 23 steps to get this done. Bottom Line the drive does not sound viable.

Aka you cannot fdisk and format it to command.com and get it booting.

 F12 booting is NOT an option on the 3000 AFAIKT.

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December 5th, 2015 09:00

I am confused.

Why are you wanting to boot from the flash drive?

The purpose of doing so is to install a new OS. Is that your intention?

If you have a program that you want to install and its files are on a USB drive, simply insert the USB drive into a USB port and browse to that USB drive and double-click on the EXE file.

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December 5th, 2015 16:00

Why are you wanting to boot from the flash drive?

Yes, please explain why...

The 7B error when booting XP means the SATA Mode  (aka: SATA Operation) setting in BIOS setup is incorrect for the OS that's loading from the USB stick.

If XP loads from the hard drive, but you change SATA Mode so it boots from the USB stick, the PC won't boot from the HDD again until you reset SATA Mode back the way it was.

And keep in mind that XP is no longer supported by Microsoft so there are no new security updates for either XP or for any version of Internet Explorer prior to IE11. Your system is vulnerable to malware attacks every time you go on the net...

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December 6th, 2015 07:00

@Rohe and @ieee488:

Yes, I am reinstalling my os tonight. I have just tested my cd drive and it is booting so I will be able to use that, I had tried to use the drive to burn just the recovery console to a cd and imgburn said there were problems with my cd, dell diagnostics says I need a new cd drive , hench the desire to boot from a flash drive.

I tested the flash drive in a dell latitude laptop that does not have sata drives and it booted perfectly.

I do not have sata drives in my 3000, I have an ide drive.

Have tried all usb ports with this and another flash drive, have tried F12 and bios boot sequence, does not show up in boot sequence and with F12, it will load until it gets to the windows is starting up screen and then goes to 7b.

NOTE: at one time there was a sata xp pro os on this particular flash drive,(but not on the other one tested) and the drive was formatted several times and again when rufus ran to burn to flash drive.

I do know that xp is unsupported, which is why I clean all the time and surf responsibly. Have not gotten infected in years and I generally reinstall my os once a year.

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December 6th, 2015 12:00

Confused.

Are you trying to burn a CD or DVD? You need to do this with a DVD because of the large file size.

If your BIOS is similar to the one on my D9100, there is no way to boot from a USB flash drive.

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December 6th, 2015 13:00

If your BIOS is similar to the one on my D9100, there is no way to boot from a USB flash drive.

Manual for D3000 says:

USB Flash Device — Insert the memory device into a USB port and restart the computer. When F12 = Boot Menu appears in the upper-right corner of the screen, press . The BIOS detects the device and adds the USB flash option to the boot menu.

BIOS setup also offers an option to disable booting from USB too...

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December 6th, 2015 13:00

No, I do not need a dvd, have burned several cds with xp.

bios is A03, latest for dimension 3000.

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December 6th, 2015 14:00

Syba 150R SATA card.

I had one of these working nicely in a Dimension 3000. With one of these, you can use a regular SATA optical drive.

161 Posts

December 6th, 2015 18:00

Why would I want a sata card??

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December 6th, 2015 19:00

RoHe

Interesting. Did not know this about this USB flash drive boot. Tried it with my D9100 and it worked. I never needed to boot from a fkash drive, so never found this out.

Kitk

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December 6th, 2015 19:00

my cd drive is not doing well according to imgburn and dell does not have any to buy,

You suggested your optical drive is failing, and no replacements could be had. IDE drives are difficult to come by, but SATA ones are cheap and abundant.

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December 7th, 2015 09:00

You don't need a sata card.


http://www.amazon.com/Lite--Super-AllWrite-Layer-Drive/dp/B002YIG9AQ

 

ADP06 adapters work just fine.

You buy a sata optical drive and adp 06 bridge and stick it to the back with the provided double sided tape and you are done.

http://www.kingwin.com/adapters/adp-06/

 

http://www.amazon.com/Kingwin-SATA-Bridge-Board-ADP-06/dp/B002SZDOM6

 

 

 

 


161 Posts

December 7th, 2015 18:00

@rdunnil, thanks for the suggestion

@speedstep, thanks also for your sugestion.

if it fails to boot after my reinstall then I will have to do one or the other of your suggestions. :)

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December 9th, 2015 13:00

Have reinstalled all up to date and can still not boot from a usb!!!


do not see any setting in bios to change. Have hit F1 on each one and nothing says any thing about usb, except usb emulation and controller which do not seem to me to be what I need and they are set to defaults.


I installed the dell diagnostics to a flash drive and they booted up fine, tests were passed, there was only one section on usb and it passed, but I do not know what the tests were, too technical for me, :)

but after this I wiped the drive with the diagnostics and burned an os iso to the drive with rufus and it still does not boot, will load setup files and then go to 7b screen at the "windows is starting up" screen.

Pretty darn frustrated.!

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