Memory Timings

Have you tried taking out the ram with the 5-5-5-15 timings to see if that allows it to lower the timing? Some motherboards won't run with mixed timings, so it might be forcing the other ones to slow down to match the older ram...

Also, timings don't really make a big difference with pentium 4 processors, they gain more from higher clock speed, AMD needs fast timing, so if you can't get it to run as 4-4-4-12, its not going to make a noticeable difference.

Yea, I took my old stuff out and sold it, The board has all the same stuff in it now. I know it's not that much difference in overall performance, but i could of got memory with slower timings a little cheaper, plus the stuff i got will go lower, 4-4-4-12 is factory for it.  It just bothers me that I spend good money for my PC and I can't do what i want with it. I bought it for what's inside... I should just strip it. It's not like i payed extra for a warranty or anything.  Thanks for the reply btw