XPS 8700 and GTX 1070/1080

Sorry dell*****

I'm not sure I played gta 5 and it worked for about 20 mins and then I decided to try out some other games and they worked and then I tried elite dangerous and I changed the resolution and my PC shut off so I'm not quite sure I'll fix all the wires in my PC and clean the cpu fan completely so I'll let you guys know.

Also I ran gta 5 max settings on my 144 hz 1080 monitor so it runs great haha but it's over kill for 1080p gaming I'm going to have to get a 1440p monitor.

When I play some games the my cpu runs at 60 to ones in a while 69c is that okay?

It works just fine.

It's good I belive I'm playing the division absolute max settings with v-sync on at 60 or over fps and the temp goes from 46-57

If you find case temps are too high you can add a front fan with some cutting.

Scroll down about 1/2 way and you'll see the hack job I did on my son's but when the plastic front cover is on it looks fine.

en.community.dell.com/.../19611037

This made a really good improvement in overall case temps.

@ DELL-Hema: Nice to know! Would be useful if my primary i7-8700 ever goes out; I could then (riskily?) drop my GTX 970 in my second i5-8700 system.

If I may, one more question I have yet to find an answer to:

Does anyone know why the 8700's card reader icons (and flash drives plugged into the two front ports) take about 3-4 minutes to register in Windows Explorer on cold boot? For whatever reason, it only  happens on cold boots.

Since I prefer Windows 7, I'm using BIOS A10--my specs are below:

Dell XPS 8700 | Core i7 4770 3.4GHz | BIOS A10 | Windows 7 Pro 64-bit SP1 | 16GB G.SKILL DDR3 Sniper 1600MHz | EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SC | Dell S2340M 23" IPS LED | Seasonic 650W M12II-650 | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB | ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 | ASUS DRW-24B1ST | Logitech G100S | Dell SK-8135 keyboard | Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2

Any help or resolution to this (if exists?) would be much appreciated!

Dell has stated that the following Dell OEM parts, among others, have been "validated/tested" for the XPS 8700 (using its 460w power supply):  

- AMD R9 270        [9KYFK AMD Radeon R9 270 RD14D-P1-70, 2GB, DVI-I/DVI-D/DP/HDMI]

- AMD HD 8870     [WNMHJ AMD Radeon HD8870, 2GB, DVI-I/mDP/mDP/HDMI]

en.community.dell.com/.../19601491

According to various sites, the maximum total design power requirements (TDPs) for the following graphics cards generally (though not necessarily for the corresponding Dell OEM parts) are as follows:

- AMD R9 270:  150 watts

- AMD HD 8870:  160 watts to 185 watts

According to various sites, the TDPs for the subject Nvidia graphics cards are as follows:

- GTX 1070:  150 watts

- GTX 1080:  180 watts

Accordingly, it would certainly appear reasonable to project that at least the GTX 1070 (i.e., if not the GTX 1080 as well) would be just as readily accommodated by the standard 460 watt PSU of the XPS 8700 as are the above-cited Dell OEM graphics cards.

(Of course, there are other considerations besides power, such as cooling, space/fitment requirements, power connectors, etc.  The above points are meant primarily to address the question of whether the Dell OEM 460w PSU may, at least apparently or potentially, provide sufficient total power for an XPS 8700 that is upgraded with one of the new Nvidia cards.)

An installation video for an EVGA GTX 1070 into an XPS 8700 (keeping the stock 460W PSU) has now been posted on Youtube:

www.youtube.com/watch

Thanks Tim! Your a star.

Guys - will the i7 4970 bottleneck the 1070 at all as it's clearly the weaker part on the benchmarks?  

No it will not bottleneck a 1070 man.

Okay guys, here's the scoop:

Windows 10 64 bit Dell XPS 8700 i7-4770 system + MSI GTX 1080 Aero 8G OC, w/upgraded 500W EVGA PSU; may work fine with existing 460W system, and I may even reinstall that old one and return the 500W now that people are saying it works):

1) Yes a 108 will work -- after some important steps (see #3 and #6):

2) You don't need any new cables, just gently push the sata cords under the card by creating a small, tight curve down and under.

3) Do NOT install drivers right away, especially if your XPS 8700 came with an Nvidia card. Mine had the GTX 645 installed, and it caused serious install problems, to the point of the new card not working at all under any driver configuration or setting. I did at least get a base "Microsoft Basic Display Driver" that didn't appear in control panel but could be seen through desktop > display settings > advanced > etc. But talk about disappointing; install the card, install drivers, nothing; no 1080 recognition by Windows.

4) Go to guru3d and download DDU. I know that sounds sketchy, but they are legit. DDU is a very good tool for completely removing old video display drivers. Launch it, select the option to Clean and remove via Safe Mode, and it will reboot you into safe mode (otherwise hold SHIFT and go click "restart" which will give you a menu where you can find safe mode in advanced boot settings). You can try uninstalling old video drivers manually, but DDU is a champ. Worked perfectly.

5) Reboot in normal mode, install latest drivers from Nvidia's website. Ignore (uninstall) Live Update 6. Ignore G-Force Experience (unless you really want those bloated features). Voila. You're up and running.

6) If you're running Windows 10, it must be Version 1511 build 10586 or later. At least the first few weeks worth are purported to have this issue. I was already in Win 1511 so no problems. Check yours by clicking on Start then typing "Winver" and hit enter. If you have 10240, blogs and support threads say you must upgrade to 1511. You can do this by downloading a MediaCreationTool that will first force your Windows 10 version to upgrade to 1511 (takes a few hours, but it's a big MS OS update, so that's usual): This direct link works as of 6/30/16; I know it's a .exe link but it's straight to microsoft. You can google the media creation tool for win 10 or just use this: download.microsoft.com/.../MediaCreationTool.exe

What a dismal "plug-and-play" experience; more like "plug and fug!" But it's over. Cheers.

For those who may be concerned about whether the i7-4790 might bottleneck a GTX 1070 or GTX 1080, here are benchmarks for an XPS 8700 upgraded with a GTX 1080, for an unspecified USA user, at site UserBenchmark.com.  No obvious bottleneck is apparent in these results.  Further, if an i7-4790 does not bottleneck a GTX 1080, it scarcely could bottleneck a GTX 1070.

http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/1315457

For those interested in comparing this result with other benchmark results for the XPS 8700, with various GPUs and other configuration variants, see:

http://www.userbenchmark.com/System/Dell-XPS-8700/3182

think ill just wait for the 1060...its less expensive..and supposedly smaller