Start a Conversation

This post is more than 5 years old

Solved!

Go to Solution

4267302

November 8th, 2015 21:00

Dell XPS 15 (9550) w/ Intel 530 / NVIDIA 960M - Intel Causing Screen Flickering

I have a Dell XPS 15 (9550) that I received last week from Dell with a random screen flickering issue. 

It is based on evalue order code: <ADMIN NOTE: Order number removed per privacy policy>


It is the 6th Gen Core i7, 16GB RAM, 15.6" FHD 1080p display (not 4k), 512GB SSD, 84WHr Battery, Intel 530 Graphics AND NVIDIA 960M

I saw a post about the XPS 13 with the intel display flickering being fixed with the new driver... I am running driver version 20.19.15.4300 for the Intel 530 and my screen is still constantly flickering  on my brand new XPS 9550. 


Another Issue: I also noticed that in the Intel graphics properties config panel -> 3D -> Application Optimal Mode... this also causes issues with the start menu looking distorted and fuzzy, even making some of the white text look gray.  I disabled this to resolve that issue, but the screen still constantly flickers.


One thing I have done recently to mitigate the flickering is go into the NVIDIA driver control panel and set the NVIDIA card as the preferred graphics card, which works for most applications. As soon as the Intel card kicks back in the screen flickers... I have tried various drivers versions for this model off the Dell website without success. I am running Windows 10 Pro...  not sure if a newer driver is available and just not posted. For example the newest Laptop BIOS on the driver website ends in .3 while my pc came with .5 installed. So wasn't sure if the website was behind on graphics driver releases, although the Dell Update app hasn't downloaded any new driver either.

I am about to return this laptop, this is annoying... I know it is the intel driver because if I uninstall the Intel Driver completely and let it install the generic microsoft basic graphics driver, while the performance isn't good, the screen does NOT flicker.

Was just wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience and if you were able to resolve it OR if this is completely a driver issue that only Dell / Intel can resolve?

 

Thanks!

14 Posts

December 9th, 2016 14:00

Ditto on the new BIOS.  I am still disabling WiFi while connected at home to prevent the flickering (using Ethernet over USB), and then enabling when I need it on the road.   I am reluctant to swap out the WiFi card as was mentioned before because I'm worried it will invalidate the warranties on the laptop.  

Completely unrelated - anyone else find it odd that the User Manual for the TB16 has been posted to the Dell website before it's released?

77 Posts

December 9th, 2016 20:00

@g.becattini

That BIOS does not make a difference at all for me, and neither is it listed to do so.

My other (more trustworthy) Dell contact told me they are indeed still fixing the issue, and that an update is to be expected somewhere in the middle of December.

@simba ... haha, right. :) For how long have you been in touch with Dell support? :)

lol only since August

December 9th, 2016 23:00

I see... But what to say? Maybe my is a lucky computer but today the flicker is no longer there or is so small that is not noticeable even at minimun brightness.

To be precise, I got used to it, so maybe that it was fixed before and that only after the BIOS update I put my attention in the ON mode.

My XPS-15 is today almost perfect in all its functions, also related to WD-15.

If it can help someone, I post a link to my drivers list.

https://1drv.ms/t/s!AofQJIlXP6kzhP1FZKQvZUbFRtbrkQ

62 Posts

December 10th, 2016 03:00

@mjwick

Are you certain you are talking about brightness flickering? If the screen turns completely black at times, this is known to be related to the wifi-card (not the flickering which most of the latest discussion on here revolves around). Newer models now have a Killer wifi card instead. I recommend you to ask for a swap.

@g.becattini

Interesting, but that list seems hard to browse. E.g., can't find 'Intel HD Graphics 530' drivers in it. If you are satisfied with this machine, might I ask you whether you use Google Chrome, and how performant it is for you? E.g. scrolling PDFs is extremely slow. Furthermore, the basic window manager in Windows is stuttering, e.g., click the task view. That animation stutters tremendously, as if that graphics card is struggling with 4k. The same goes for maximizing full screen windows.

77 Posts

December 10th, 2016 12:00

@mjwick

Are you certain you are talking about brightness flickering? If the screen turns completely black at times, this is known to be related to the wifi-card (not the flickering which most of the latest discussion on here revolves around). Newer models now have a Killer wifi card instead. I recommend you to ask for a swap.

@g.becattini

Interesting, but that list seems hard to browse. E.g., can't find 'Intel HD Graphics 530' drivers in it. If you are satisfied with this machine, might I ask you whether you use Google Chrome, and how performant it is for you? E.g. scrolling PDFs is extremely slow. Furthermore, the basic window manager in Windows is stuttering, e.g., click the task view. That animation stutters tremendously, as if that graphics card is struggling with 4k. The same goes for maximizing full screen windows.

@Whathecode

when you mention animation stutters and windows explorer stuttering, I think I had/ have something similar. Particularly when opening the start menu (not fullscreen version) with all windows minimized, the mouse goes into ridiculous slow motion mode. I figured out it was/ is the NVidia programs running in the background causing the conflict. Ending Task the following sorts it: Nvidia User Experience Driver Component and Nvidia Wireless Controller Service.

Try and see if that helps.

77 Posts

December 10th, 2016 12:00

The new configuration of the 9550 (top end) does not list the Intel 530.

if it comes with the 6700HQ then it will still have the intel 530.

31 Posts

December 10th, 2016 12:00

The new configuration of the 9550 (top end) does not list the Intel 530.

December 11th, 2016 01:00

@simba2585

Aaaaagh! You are right, there is something more! 

I am used to work on a very large Word document. Since some days it become very slow when resizing images into it. I though it was a problem of the document itself: big size, something strange etc.

But your indirect suggestion (thank you) triggered the idea to test it on another PC: I have an old XPS-One 27 with i5 3330S CPU and 6GB RAM and tried on it. It is much faster than my XPS-15 with 32GB RAM!

The slowdown happened about ten days ago before the latest BIOS/drivers update, so the problem is not there. My installation is rather clean, I have no strange software and tried disinstalling other software and stopping various startup but with no success.

I searched Internet about a problem like that but nothing. I will try opening a new topic.

December 11th, 2016 08:00

Update: I decided to start again... Complete zap, fresh install & update... All drivers manually reinstalled...

  • Result: MS-Word is again fast in resiziong images;
  • The flicker is back.

I did not demonstrate anything, only lost one sunday.

Note: even this way, the autodetect driver of the Dell web site keeps on asking the update of BIOS and serial IO driver, albeit they are correctly installed in the latest version (as it did before reinstall).

12 Posts

December 19th, 2016 01:00

I had the same issues and now after update GeForce gtx 960m graphic gone, can't be recognized by system so I can't even update drivers for it, only intel hd graphics appears at this moment. Looks like I will have to reinstall whole system to fix this.

December 20th, 2016 01:00

@gnomik, where you replying to me?

For the above issue: after a week I was back again in troubles. New fresh reinstall but the problem remained (lot of tests, fresh install and Office installation only, no other stuff)..

A very strange workaround: if I enable Hyper-V and create a virtual switch, the problem is gone. Dont ask me why, but the solution is working and is repetitive (Hyper-V disabled= MS Word very slow; Hyper-V enabled = Word working normally).

Hyper-V itself is not enough: you have to create the virtual switch.

62 Posts

December 21st, 2016 06:00

Finally, it seems like the latest BIOS release (1.2.18) addresses the brightness flicker issue. I currently have all the latest drivers (thus also the latest Intel HD Graphics driver), and I have yet to see a flicker (which usually occurred twice every minute or so).

Their release notes are rather concise, so uncertain whether it is just the two things listed:

Fixes & Enhancements

1. Fix FFS issue.
2. Fix Lid close can't switch display issue.
No clue what the 'FFS' issue is, but my guess (hope) is it is/or is related to the brightness flickering.

I don't want to jinx it, but it seems like I can finally stop pestering Dell about this issue. On to the next (performance issue)! :)

17 Posts

December 21st, 2016 09:00

Same! Just installed the 1.2.18 BIOS and the flickering has finally stopped. Maybe "FS" in "FFS" stands for "Flickering Screen" or smth ;-)

Btw, I'm using Intel's latest driver as well (21.20.16.4542).

Thanks Dell! :)

77 Posts

December 21st, 2016 11:00

I think FFS is in truth its vulgar slang meaning...the flickering is pretty much a FFS issue :-D

Ive installed the latest BIOS A18 and latest intel graphics and so far haven't noticed a flicker - touch wood....

31 Posts

December 21st, 2016 17:00

I got my xps15 9550 back yesterday, or should I say my replacement.  Dell was going to swap me a refurbished unit (because of long leadtime on a repair part) but could not locate one, thank goodness.  Instead they built me  a new one,  Could only build a 'standard' unit, not custom, so I had to take 32 GB of RAM rather than 16 GB that I had.  Also got the Killer wifi card with it, since that is now standard.

After full startup was complete, I imaged the drive for safe keeping, then installed my prior image from the old machine.  Everything went good but the image restore said it failed at the very end.  Everything seems to work after installing the Killer wifi and bluetooth drivers.

I have the the .12 bios, and I am not going to change it at this time, even though I read that the .18 bios has fixed the flickering.

It has been a long, frustrating ordeal (as many of you know for yourselves).  I'm considering paying for premium support to keep from having to mail it in for service in the future.  

Jim

No Events found!

Top