I should have mentioned that the 960 EVO is now identified correctly by Samsung Magician. It is no longer a jumbled up mess of characters. This got fixed when I changed the SATA mode in the BIOS from RAID to AHCI.
Yes buddy I know its the same thing for me, there is an alternative to magician to get data about the SSD it is called : Crystal Disk Info. With that you get the number of working hours, ssd health, temperature, total reading/writing etc...
Im in the same boat as you I have a 950 256GB PCIe ! But still the SSD is running strong and fast as it is.
Because our windows has been installed with the RAID configuration, I read it has to be in AHCI mode but well I can live with that, supplier is wrong with his answer, our laptop are fine lol.
Dave - it's worse than I thought. It looks like it doesn't support trim, which is bad. Using Macrium Reflect to back up and restore partitions, a write is preceded by a trim command. This usually reports success, but the 960 reports nothing.
This is in a recovery environment - nothing to do with windows. However, the environment includes all necessary drivers, so it could I suppose be a driver issue (there is no Samsung NVME driver in my system).
Crystal Disk Info reports poor quality data, and also confirms no trim support.
By poor quality, I mean only raw values (not Current /Worst/Threshold), and parameter IDs that are significantly different from those of an 850 EVO (for example no Error Counts, Reallocated Sector Count, Wear Leveling Count, etc, etc).
I am coming to the conclusion that the 960 series is so new that current software tools cannot cope with it - not even Samsung Magician. The pdf guide for the latest Samsung Magician 4.9 states that this version now supports the 950 PRO M.2!
I have no idea what function the Samsung NVME driver v2 performs. It doesn't seem to have any effect. It shows up in device manager as a storage controller, but the drive itself is using Microsoft drivers.
OK - I think I was correct in my assumption that current software tools are not working well with the 960 series. Samsung have just updated Magician to version 5, and it is clearly a major update. It has a revamped UI and now works well with my 960 EVO.
Version 4.9 with SATA mode in the BIOS set to RAID:
I am guessing that the Samsung NVME driver is required to enable TRIM? It is perhaps best at this stage to be suspicious of drive information provided by other software tools.
I also have 2015 R2. I have Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB on Sata Port, Samsung 951 256 GB on PCIE x2 link and Samsung 960 EVO 1TB on PCIE x4 link. Of course I am countinuing with Intel RAID (which has AHCI/NVME drivers built in). So only Samsung 850 EVO is shown in Samsung Magician with remaining 2 NVME disks as unknown device. Samsung needs to improve magician. I am not worried about Trim since trim is inbuilt from Windows 8.1. I have other notebooks where I am using built in trim (120 TBW so far on two different 850 EVO SSDs). Only problem is though I am getting 3200 MB read and 2000 MB sequencial writes, IOPS are only 120,000 and 110,000 respectively. What IOPS you are seeing in samsung magician after switching to AHCI.
deccauk
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December 5th, 2016 14:00
I should have mentioned that the 960 EVO is now identified correctly by Samsung Magician. It is no longer a jumbled up mess of characters. This got fixed when I changed the SATA mode in the BIOS from RAID to AHCI.
Dave18k
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December 5th, 2016 00:00
Yes buddy I know its the same thing for me, there is an alternative to magician to get data about the SSD it is called : Crystal Disk Info. With that you get the number of working hours, ssd health, temperature, total reading/writing etc...
Im in the same boat as you I have a 950 256GB PCIe ! But still the SSD is running strong and fast as it is.
Because our windows has been installed with the RAID configuration, I read it has to be in AHCI mode but well I can live with that, supplier is wrong with his answer, our laptop are fine lol.
If it really bugs you out try this : www.tenforums.com/.../45011-samsung-950-pro-nvm-express-driver.html
Dave.
deccauk
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December 5th, 2016 04:00
Dave - it's worse than I thought. It looks like it doesn't support trim, which is bad. Using Macrium Reflect to back up and restore partitions, a write is preceded by a trim command. This usually reports success, but the 960 reports nothing.
This is in a recovery environment - nothing to do with windows. However, the environment includes all necessary drivers, so it could I suppose be a driver issue (there is no Samsung NVME driver in my system).
Crystal Disk Info reports poor quality data, and also confirms no trim support.
Derek
eternalkp
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December 5th, 2016 07:00
this is terrible news. I have 17 R3 and was going to throw away the PM951 256gb for Evo 960 1tb.
Dave18k
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December 5th, 2016 11:00
poor quality lol ? well still better than magician who shows nothing at all lmao at least this one recognize it...
hindesite
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December 5th, 2016 13:00
Can you support that statement in any meaningful way?
TIA
deccauk
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December 5th, 2016 14:00
By poor quality, I mean only raw values (not Current /Worst/Threshold), and parameter IDs that are significantly different from those of an 850 EVO (for example no Error Counts, Reallocated Sector Count, Wear Leveling Count, etc, etc).
I am coming to the conclusion that the 960 series is so new that current software tools cannot cope with it - not even Samsung Magician. The pdf guide for the latest Samsung Magician 4.9 states that this version now supports the 950 PRO M.2!
I have no idea what function the Samsung NVME driver v2 performs. It doesn't seem to have any effect. It shows up in device manager as a storage controller, but the drive itself is using Microsoft drivers.
deccauk
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December 7th, 2016 01:00
OK - I think I was correct in my assumption that current software tools are not working well with the 960 series. Samsung have just updated Magician to version 5, and it is clearly a major update. It has a revamped UI and now works well with my 960 EVO.
Version 4.9 with SATA mode in the BIOS set to RAID:
derekjohnston.org/.../01.jpg
Version 5 with SATA mode in the BIOS set to AHCI and Samsung NVME driver v2 installed :
derekjohnston.org/.../15.jpg
I am guessing that the Samsung NVME driver is required to enable TRIM? It is perhaps best at this stage to be suspicious of drive information provided by other software tools.
girishkamat
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February 14th, 2017 21:00
I also have 2015 R2. I have Samsung 850 EVO 1 TB on Sata Port, Samsung 951 256 GB on PCIE x2 link and Samsung 960 EVO 1TB on PCIE x4 link. Of course I am countinuing with Intel RAID (which has AHCI/NVME drivers built in). So only Samsung 850 EVO is shown in Samsung Magician with remaining 2 NVME disks as unknown device. Samsung needs to improve magician. I am not worried about Trim since trim is inbuilt from Windows 8.1. I have other notebooks where I am using built in trim (120 TBW so far on two different 850 EVO SSDs). Only problem is though I am getting 3200 MB read and 2000 MB sequencial writes, IOPS are only 120,000 and 110,000 respectively. What IOPS you are seeing in samsung magician after switching to AHCI.
girishkamat
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February 14th, 2017 21:00
Trim is built in Windows 8.1 onwards. Samsung magician recommends to use built in trim support on my other machine for 850 EVO.