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June 28th, 2009 14:00
730x utility for managing/monitoring system internals
It looks like the chipset changed for the 730x (compared to the 730) and the NVIDIA software is no longer used. Since this is one of the few applications on the must have list when I re-install the OS from scratch, where do I find it? Is it on a resource disc that comes with the 730x? If it's in the downloads area I'm not sure what it's called - PC Tune up, Dell Thermal Application?
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rh310
You can find the XPS 730x chipset driver, HERE
It should also, be on the Drivers and Utilities disc.
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June 28th, 2009 14:00
I think rh310 is asking for a utility to monitor fan speeds, temperatures, etc in the system. The new chipset (X58 vs Nvidia) for the 730x means that the Nvidia software probably won't work.
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June 28th, 2009 17:00
It works just fine. I've been using it on my system from day one.
NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support for ALL operating systems - version 6.05
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia_system_tools_6.05.html
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June 28th, 2009 22:00
The XPS Thermal Monitor is junk, plain and simple. I'm sure Dell may have meant for it to take the place of the Nvidia tools but it's not happening.
For monitoring my CPU temp(s), I use CoreTemp.
For monitoring my GPU temp(s), I use EVGA Precision
For adjusting GPU, CPU, and system fans - I use the Nvidia System Tools.
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June 28th, 2009 22:00
That's interesting. Given that the 730x uses the Intel X58 chipset and NVIDIA System Tools only supports the following:
I had read today a review that mentioned the utility that came with the 730 had been overhauled for the 730x and much improved - easier to use. That caught my eye because last year I read many gripes here about the NVIDIA utility not working well and difficult to use.
With the new chipset, I thought Dell had written their own utility to display internal temps, fan speeds, and control the lights.
So I just wanted to make sure I could re-install the 'new' utility should I rebuild the OS.
Ok, found the article http://hothardware.com/Articles/Dell-XPS-730x-H2C-Intel-Core-i7-Gaming-System/?page=4
The XPS Thermal Monitor apparently takes the place of the NVIDIA software. I suppose the NVIDIA utility would work to monitor their graphics cards.
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June 29th, 2009 08:00
Thanks for that information. My computer is 7 years old so all these features are new to me. This article explains allot about ESA and why multiple utilities can be used to monitor/control todays systems, despite the chipset implementation.
http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3145&p=2
So while the NVIDIA tool might display and control more characteristics on the 730 than the 730x - because the 730 uses a NVIDIA chipset - apparently the Intel chipset used in the 730x has implemented ESA to some degree. Without comparing the two side-by-side it would be hard to know the difference or what the 730x lacks.
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June 29th, 2009 12:00
I didn't realize that. That would explain why over the past two days the number of base configurations of the 730x shown went from 4 to 6 now back to 4.
A box that will run XP Pro now and Windows 7 down the road is my target. The 730x seems to fit that - the key being support for drivers once Windows 7 goes GA.
I'm not into squeezing speed out of it or extreme graphics performance, I just want it plenty fast out of the box and stable. I'm used to restarting every 2-3 weeks. My 310 has run as long as 77 days.
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June 29th, 2009 12:00
* To each his own. I have the air cooled XPS 730x running Windows 7.
For monitoring my CPU temp(s), I use CPUID HWMonitor.
For monitoring my GPU temp(s), I use CPUID HWMonitor.
For adjusting GPU fans, I use EVGA Precision Tool.
For adjusting the Front CPU Fan, PCI Cage Fan, and the HDD Fan, I use the new XPS Thermal Monitor found in the XPS 625 driver library.
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June 29th, 2009 12:00
I have to disagree PH3NOM, you cant control the H2C Unit, nor the memory timings, nor the motherboard 'features', basically you cant overclock via the nVidia Control Panel nor control the CPU Fan, all this i could do on my old XPS 730 but not on my XPS 730x.
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June 29th, 2009 12:00
The Nvidia tools does everything on the 730x that it could do on the 730. There isn't one thing lacking.
rh310
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June 29th, 2009 12:00
Thanks for that tidbit, Chris. I would have never guessed to look in the XPS 625 library for the XPS Thermal Monitor to work with a 730x!
FYI, I'm on page 30 of 58 in the h/w discussion thread trying to learn as much as I can.
It seems like I'm having the computer built for me but I'm gonna have to 'make' it work because 64-bit OS out of the box is just too far ahead of the curve - unless this is your first computer and you have no legacy s/w h/w to migrate.
rh310
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June 29th, 2009 12:00
Well that's interesting.
I wonder why they didn't badge the 730x with this...
I don't recall what the original 730 spec page had. Dell has allot to keep up with and their spec pages have occasionally been misleading.
For example, the spec page says you can get Genuine Windows Vista® Business with Downgrade Rights Service to Windows® XP Professional but I don't see that option when customizing one.
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June 29th, 2009 12:00
rh310,
The Sales pages are populated by what we have in stock. Not on what the PC can use.
The XPS 730x supports the following operating systems -
Windows 7
Windows Vista Home 32/64
Windows Vista Home Premium 32/64
Windows Vista Business 32/64
Windows Vista Ultimate 32/64
Windows XP Professional
The XPS 730 supports the following operating systems -
Windows Vista Home 32/64
Windows Vista Home Premium 32/64
Windows Vista Business 32/64
Windows Vista Ultimate 32/64
Windows XP Professional
PH3N0M
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June 29th, 2009 12:00
Sure you can. You can overclock your GPU via the Nvidia control panel and you can also control the CPU fan via the Nvidia control panel. Even if the nTune tools would allow overclocking of the memory and CPU, I wouldn't trust an application in overclocking those components but to each his own.
PH3N0M
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June 29th, 2009 13:00
I'm running Windows 7 x64 and have yet to have a driver issue with my Lexmark printer, Brother fax machine, Logitech peripherals, or anything else for that matter.