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August 1st, 2005 20:00

can someone help me? please

i have dell dimension 8300 bought in 2004.
 
and i want to update my computer with Graphic card for games, i want to BUY GeForce 6800 ULTRA 256mb also thinking about 6800 ULTRA 512mb.
 
there are PCI EXPRESSE CARDS
 
and in my DIAGAX Report there PCI's Listed does that means that my pc is comptible with PCI Graphic Cards? or does that means that i have PCI slot availble?
 
 
please tell me.
 
DELL DOESNT HAVE 512MB MEMORY Graphic Card? is that ture.
 
::Asad::
 
 

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August 1st, 2005 20:00

i think you need an AGP card

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August 2nd, 2005 00:00

You need an AGP card.  You would also need a new PSU probably.  The 6800 Ultra 512mb card is a complete waste of money.  It is no better than the 256mb version and almost costs twice as much.

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August 2nd, 2005 05:00

are you sure those G Cards which am looking forward too are not compatible with my system?
 
and are you sure about AGP Cards are the best for coming games?
 
if i want to install 6800 ULTRA 256mb AGP Type then will it fit my pc?
 
also if i buy that CARD and i call dell just to tell them that i have G Card and can you please install this card in my computer, will dell do that? and how much will it cost?
 
what is PSU?
 
please tell me
 
Asad

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August 2nd, 2005 07:00



@Asad8300 wrote:
are you sure those G Cards which am looking forward too are not compatible with my system?

Nearly every NVIDIA or ATI card is compatible with the Dell 8300 (in AGP form).

and are you sure about AGP Cards are the best for coming games?
The new standard for graphics cards is the PCI-Express interface, but the Dell Dim8300 uses the AGP interface. You will need to buy an AGP card. Right now there is only one card (the NVIDIA 7800 series) that is not available in AGP format. The PCI-Express is just now eclipsing the AGP standards abilities, but cards like the 6800 series and X850 series are more than capable for anything (gamewise) for the next couple years. If you really want to switch to the PCI-Express format, you'll need a new computer (at least a new motherboard and probably a new cpu)
 
if i want to install 6800 ULTRA 256mb AGP Type then will it fit my pc?
Physically, it should fit - the problem is the power supply. You can try it and see how it runs, but that card is very power-hungry. You could replace your power supply with one from www.pcpowerandcooling.com (Dell psu's are proprietary, so you can't just grab one from Best Buy and hope it works). The 6800GT is nearly as capable, less of a power-monger, and less expensive, too. It should work in your system without any trouble.
 
also if i buy that CARD and i call dell just to tell them that i have G Card and can you please install this card in my computer, will dell do that? and how much will it cost?
I doubt that they would do that, but the good news is that there are plenty of instructions people can supply here, or thru Dell's online resources -  like this : http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim8300/sm/cards.htm?c=us&l=en&cs=19&s=dhs#1106134 . Installing the card is a lot easier than you think, and if you have any questions, there are plenty of posts (use the search function with '8300' 'video card replacement' to find additional help.
 
what is PSU?
PSU is the Power Supply Unit - the device that converts 110VAC from your home to the DC currents for powering different components within your computer. The one in your pc is rated by Dell at 250W - nominal, which is roughly 350W - max. It is powerful enough to handle any AGP card with the possible exceptions of the 6800Ultra and the X850XT.
The replacement unit from pcpowerandcooling shown here: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=T425D is rated at 425W and could power either of those high-end video cards. It costs ~ $135
 
Hope this helps! - Grant

Message Edited by AromaShockTherapy on 08-02-2005 04:34 AM

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August 2nd, 2005 09:00

yeah that helped me alot and thanks for that.

but sir in that documentation it gives instruction on installing PCI Cards. what does that mean?

and also if i buy that fx 6800 ultra 256 mb AGP type will i probably need to change PSU aswell?

once again thanks for your help.

just answer above quesations please

::Asad::

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August 2nd, 2005 16:00

Sorry I'm so dense. I too have an 2004 8300 TExas Instruments compliant IEEE 1384 bus. I have a DVD burner and want to capture video but I never received any documentation on how to do this. I'm not sure where to plug in the VCR, and what sort of plug I need.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Reg

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August 2nd, 2005 18:00



@Asad8300 wrote:

yeah that helped me alot and thanks for that.

but sir in that documentation it gives instruction on installing PCI Cards. what does that mean?

PCI cards are for less intesive peripherals like soundcards, modems or USB/Firewire hubs (graphics demand more attention and the AGP interface provides more bandwidth and speed than the PCI slots can).

and also if i buy that fx 6800 ultra 256 mb AGP type will i probably need to change PSU aswell?

There is no certain answer. You probably will need a more powerful psu, and I would recommend it. If the card is too powerful for your current configuration it might not boot, or worse - it cause other components to fail including your CPU or motherboard. That's just too risky for me to try and find out the hard way.

once again thanks for your help.

just answer above quesations please

::Asad::



Grant

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August 2nd, 2005 21:00

yeah your right but i wont install the graphic card i will ask  DELL to install it and i will pay them cuz if i install the GC and if something goes very bad with pc i will be responsible for that but if DELL installs it and something goes wrong, DELL have to fix that problem.

am i correct?

any e way thanks for your help on choosing correct Graphic card for my Dell 8300

once again thanks for your help

::Asad::

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August 2nd, 2005 23:00

Dell will not install the video card for you.  They are not in the upgrade business.

You can take it to a place like Best Buy that will do it for about 40.00, but quite a few of their so called Geek Squad, are clueless.

Message Edited by Daddyjaxx on 08-02-2005 08:10 PM

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August 3rd, 2005 10:00

what, oh man this to sad , any e way i will do something about it.
 
but hey i have found FX 6800 ULTRA 256MB AGP and the Power Suply for this card is needed 350WTs and in this thread i think it was you or someone else said that in 8300 250wt dell rated which is normally 350WT which can handle ANY AGP GC.
 
here is the SPECS FOR GC THAT I have CHOOSEN it.
 
XFX Geforce 6800 Ultra 256MB AGP DUAL DVI TV OUT
Manufacturer:  XFX    Manufacturer Part Number:  PVT40FUDF7

General
 
Compatibility   - PC
 
Interface Type  - AGP 8x
 
Enclosure Type - Plug-in card
 
Device Type - Graphics adapter

Expansion / Connectivity
 
Compatible Slots - 1 x AGP
 
Interfaces -2 x DVI-I - 29 pin combined DVI ¦ 1 x TV-out ¦ 2 x VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15) ( with adapter )

Miscellaneous
 
Cables Included - 2 x DVI-VGA adapter

Software / System Requirements
 
OS Required - Microsoft Windows 95, Microsoft Windows 98, Microsoft Windows NT 4.0, Linux, Microsoft Windows 2000, Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition, Microsoft Windows XP
 
Peripheral / Interface Devices -CD-ROM, 350W power supply

Processor / Memory
 
Memory Clock Speed - 1.1 GHz
 
Technology - GDDR3 SDRAM
 
Video Memory Installed - 256 MB
 
RAMDAC Clock Speed - 400 MHz
 
Graphics Processor / Vendor - NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra
 

Video Output
 
Digital Video Standard - Digital Visual Interface (DVI)
 
Analogue Video Format - RGB
 
TV Interface - TV out
 
Max Monitors Supported - 2
 
API Supported - DirectX 9.0, OpenGL 1.5
 
Max Resolution (external) - 2048 x 1536 / 85 Hz
 
 
This SPECS ARE FROM
 
 
 
please check these SPECS AND TELL ME IS THIS GC IS READY TO POWER MY GAMES AND READY TO FIT IN MY PC.
 
waiting for your respond
 
Asad
  

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August 3rd, 2005 11:00

The 6800Ultra can play anygame out there, but i am not sure if it will fit in your PC, i know you cna get a new PSU from pcpowerandcooling.com
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