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October 24th, 2012 08:00
Dell Dimension 3000
Hi there I'm a newfer to this forum and would like some opinions regarding a project I'm working on. Here's a link to my system. What I'm trying to do is a mild upgrade for internet use and functionality with video. No heavy use.
I have a RAM upgrade to :Corsair Memory VS2GBKIT400C3 2 GB PC3200 400MHz 184-Pin DDR Desktop Memory Kit.(Matched pair of 1 gig ea.)
I also have a new hard drive: Western Digital 160 GB WD Blue PATA 7200 RPM 8 MB Cache. This will be the only drive so I'll have to reinstall windows and a few select other programs. I'm ok with that.
I found a processor I think will work: New Intel Pentium 4 3.4GHz 800MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache Socket 478 Mfr P/N SL8K
What I'm looking for at this point is a heat sink and CPU fan that will support the new CPU. I'm looking at this setup as I understand the copper/aluminum combo is the best with heat dissipation: Intel Socket 478 Copper Core/Aluminum Heat Sink (3 pin connector).
This unit also has a rear fan in the case for cooling which I also intend to replace. When this unit gets warm it sounds like a Cessna taking off. I want to cool the system as much as I can and also quiet the whole thing down. I've done a few things with desktops before so I know just enough to be dangerous:-)
Look this over and let me know what you think. Yes indeed I know its old(2005) but back in the day it worked quite well. I like the size of the tower ans ease of access to the inside. It will be sitting on a desk in my "man-cave" for entertainment purposes only. Let me know of any pitfalls with this configuration. Thank you so much for your expertise!!
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October 24th, 2012 09:00
Hi JJSooner1,
Just a comment about the fan. Dell case fans have a proprietary connector so I would replace the Dell fan with another Dell fan. Yes, the fan in the Dim 3000 was notorious for being noisy (I had one).
The CPU bracket is not compatible with a standard Intel heatsink, as I recall. My vote would be to try the new CPU with the Dell heatsink and see how the temps run. We had a 3.0GHz, 800MHz CPU in our Dim 3000 and never had any problem with heat.
jjsooner1
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October 24th, 2012 10:00
Thanks for the reply! So am I to understand that no one makes a fan/heat sink to fit that will run more efficiently and quietly? Is there an adapter one can use? I hate buying a bad product twice:-) What about a fan/sink from an XPS?
kisianik
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October 24th, 2012 18:00
Can you please provide motherboard model or picture, given that I think it is possible to find the way for aftermarket cooler. By the way, I also have XPS GEN3, which is still working (typing this) and do it good considering it is circa 2004!
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October 25th, 2012 01:00
kisianik
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October 25th, 2012 11:00
How about this from newegg Socket 478 coolers for example. Your motherboard or it may look like this, has holes, so make sure that your cooler has pins, not screws. Dell CPU fans have 4 pin connections, any 3 pin should do fine, most of the time - you will have fan running at 100% RPM, so choose quieter one.
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October 25th, 2012 20:00
The 3000 has a proprietary passive heatsink with proprietary connector, so standard 478 heatsinks will not work without modification.
kisianik
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October 25th, 2012 23:00
@rdunnill: are you taliking about this - Dell proprietary cooling connectors as mention in WIKI (look for the paragraph with the same title - Dell proprietary), is this what are you talking about? White wire? Actually this what it says, to save time from opening link.
jjsooner1
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October 26th, 2012 14:00
So what sort of mod would it require? I'm not leaning that way but I never close myself off to a good idea. I still need to remove the PSU and clean that area and the fan. Is it possible to install a case fan to pull outside air in for the internal case? I could also ventilate the side cover with strategically placed holes. This isn't hard to do and if done right will not detract from cosmetics. Whether its a computer or a motor, its always going to perform better if it can breathe. Any thoughts?
kisianik
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October 26th, 2012 18:00
I need to find detailed pictures of inside the case, the more the better, especially all openings. Does CPU has special shroud leading air outside? Strong exhaust fan can make a difference, also need space for at least 1 intake fan, or something similar. Do you have any used PC fans, any size?
jjsooner1
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October 26th, 2012 19:00
Well let's see if this works.
Does this
help any?
rdunnill
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October 26th, 2012 20:00
If you can install a standard Socket 478 heatsink bracket in the mainboard, you can use a standard 3-wire CPU fan, provided that you replace the connector with the proprietary one from the Dell OEM unit. You will also want a 92mm fan like the Antec TriCool (the RPM of which is controlled by a three-position switch).
jjsooner1
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October 26th, 2012 20:00
The "Antec" would be an extra fan? What about a power supply for that?
rdunnill
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October 26th, 2012 20:00
The CPU heatsink is under the green shroud; the 92mm chassis fan is immediately to the left of the shroud, and doubles as the CPU cooler.
jjsooner1
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October 26th, 2012 20:00
In the "mainboard"? What would that require? Is the pin pattern the same for that sink as is in the board now?
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October 26th, 2012 22:00
In that event, you'll need a 92mm chassis fan, and I'd recommend the Antec Tricool.