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October 26th, 2004 09:00
Dimension 8400 Questions
Hi everyone,
I bought my Dimension 8400 for gaming, and I have the following configurations;
Intel 3.2G, 512MB 400 Mhz RAM, X800XT, 80 gig 7200 hard disk, etc.
I am not satisfy with the speed of this machine, and I want to upgrade my 8400.
I want to upgrade the ram to 1 gig, however I am still deciding in between adding another 512 400 Mhz RAM or adding a new pair of 533Mhz 512MB.
1) I want to know what % of performance increase if I go for the 533Mhz way or just save a few bucks to 400Mhz?
2) Will the performance increase a lot if I upgrade the RAM to 1 gig?
3) What other upgrade should I opt for other than the RAM ?
Thanks for any input
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Mary G
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October 26th, 2004 16:00
Th0rne
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October 27th, 2004 06:00
if you ordered your Dimension 8400 with 512MB, so you got two 256MB 400 ram sticks.
For a upgrade to 1GB ram, you need another two 256MB 400 ram sticks, or remove the two 256MB and add two 512MB.
A single 512MB doesnt work, you need always a pair of same size and speed.
DDR2 533 ram is supposed to be faster than the 400 ram. Tests show, DDR2 533 ram is really faster.
Samsung DDR2-533 (PC-4200):
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SPD Timings at DDR2-533 = 4-4-4-11
SPD Timings at DDR2-400 = 3-3-3-8
Corsair XMS2 DDR2-533 (PC-4200)
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SPD Timings at DDR2-533 = 4-4-4-12
SPD Timings at DDR2-400 = 3-3-3-9
Infineon DDR2-533 (PC-4200)
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SPD Timings at DDR2-533 = 4-4-4-12
SPD Timings at DDR2-400 = 3-3-3-9
SiSoft Sandra 2004 SP2 - Memory Bandwidth Benchmark
(Higher scores mean better performance)
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DDR2 at 533 MHz:
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Corsair DDR2 at 533 MHz = 5042
Infineon DDR2 at 533 MHz = 5033
Samsung DDR2 at 533 MHz = 5056
DDR2 at 400 MHz:
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Corsair DDR2 at 400 MHz = 4859
Infineon DDR2 at 400 MHz = 4818
Samsung DDR2 at 400 MHz = 4840
You could overclock the X800 card a little with ATItools.
Defrag your HD's from time to time.
You could add a second S-ATA 80 GB Drive and config it as Raid 0. Be aware you have to re-install Windows and all apps if you change it to Raid.
(The advantage of Raid 0 is up to 10% performance increase, the disadvantage of Raid 0 is, if one of the 2 HD's doesnt work anymore, all data on both drives are lost.)
Stop/Disable non-needed Services of Windows XP.
Don't use Symantecs Firewall and AV Tools, they slowdown the System. Choose McAfee and/or Zone Alarm instead.
Disable Mouse and Menu Shadows/Animations
Run Windows XP in classic style instead of LUNA Theme and/or Windowblinds/Style XP
Don't load a Wallpaper for your Desktop
Remove not needed Programs on Startup
Often do you close Programs or Games, or your PC has a uptime of many days/weeks. Windows XP becomes slow. Then do following:
Enable MS Windows Scripting Host (Control Panel > Add/Remove programs, Windows Setup tab, Accessories category, second from the bottom.
Open Notepad, and copy the following into it, and save it as freemem.vbs in a folder of your choice.
FreeMem = Space(128000000)
Put a shortcut to it on the desktop, or in the quick launch bar, and run it if Windows XP becomes slow.
Message Edited by Th0rne on 10-27-2004 09:49 AM
Message Edited by Th0rne on 10-27-2004 09:51 AM
solomonl
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October 27th, 2004 08:00
AZtoSD
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October 27th, 2004 11:00
I don't know about percentage increases, but I think you'll see more bang for your buck just by going from 512mb to 1gb, regardless of speed. If you have the money, definitely go for 1gb @ 533mhz. But you'll see a larger net increase in performance going from 512 to 1gb @ 400 than you would see if you went from 1gb @400 to 1gb @ 533, for example.
I've read that XP uses 512mb just to run efficiently, so right now there's a lot of sharing going on when you play games. Again, getting another 512mb no matter what speed will be VERY noticeable and worthwhile.
Moomins
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October 27th, 2004 12:00
madmike77
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October 29th, 2004 17:00