Thank you for sharing that information, I was thinking about doing the samething with my system & I do not want to throw my new XPS730 into a mess already.... If anyone has a solution to this problem please share...
XPS730 AirCooled Edition
Q9550 overclocked to 3.2mhz
GTX260 SupperClocked + & still running cool at 53 Deg. C
Has anyone tried NVIDIA System Tools with ESA Support Version 6.02 dated September 23, 2008 ? I haven't tried it but I'm curious if it would be an improvement over the version that comes with the XPS730..
I currently use them, but I have never been able to get a profile to load at boot or otherwise with any version of the software, but I have a 630i. You might have more luck. Just doesn't work for me. Anyway, I have a standard profile that I made that I load when I want to game.
Wonder what the recommended performance settings for the standard full-screen game would be, without over-clocking; as in Case, CPU, & GPU fan settings.
Tried 55%, sure is noisy. :smileyhappy:
Really amazes me that a computer manufacturer can put out system without thoroughly testing them out. Almost feels like I paid $1400 for a beta machine. But this system is worlds apart from my former Dimension 8400 (Pentium 4, Prescott).
I leave my case set to auto, the cpu to 60% and my gpu to 90%. I have a 9800GX2 and I was having some overheating issues when I first got my pc. With the case fans on auto, its not that noisy.
Was looking at the stock CPU heatsink, and it shows a decal pointing as airflow to the back... but where is the fan? Inside?
Have been giving this Vantec 92mm Stealth Fan some thought and installing in the back of the case for maybe a better cool-air flow around/through the heatsink area.
Noticed the OEM GeForce 9800 GT gets a bit warm in the back near the venting area; not sure whether to install a slot fan there, or not. I don't want to have video card issues like I had with my Dimension 8400, thus why I went for the two year full coverage warranty.
I want to OC in the Bios and have nvidia performance load fans settings only. Can't OC very much if the fans don't kick in properly.
After seeing all the posts on various forums nTune and nvidia performance profiles lock up the computer loading them when Windows starts(XP and Vista). Check this post is http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t42073.html he may be on to something. Don't use nPerformance to OC. You will go insane trying.
NB:If you can't get back into the OS after setting a profile to load with a rule, restart in safe mode and set the performance service (nvidia) to disabled, reboot and login normally, uninstall nvidia performance and re-install.
The software is not too smart and writes all setting to the .nsu profile. Even though all I did was change the fan settings in the nvidia Control panel. If you edit the .nsu in notepad, you'll see it has the ram, fsb, memory settings etc... but I never touched them. Did I say write my RAM setting, No! So why write them. This means you can't use profile created @ 2.4GHz when you OC in the bios to 3GHz. Since it will just set you back to 2.4GHz.
PS. If you are like me and only want use a single app to control the fans, CPU, Chassis and GPU. My GPU Fans settings are greyed out in the Control panel, but if you edit the .nsu in notepad, you can set the GPU1 and GPU2 etc.. to 100%. So no need for Rivatuner, just to set them to 100%. However Rivatune will load the 100% GPUFAN without crashing the system.
Some entries in .the nsu files have "=0" like the GPUFAN01=0, when they probably are set otherwise or don't exist for that mobo or GPU. ie: TRAS=0, Setting TRAS to 0 should crash the comp, since it is probably set to 5-15 in the bios. I've seen other posts that say set anything @ =0 to =-1. I'll try it tonight. -1 might mean use what is in the bios.
I'm trying to find a list and explanation of each line, I'll post it if such a thing exists.
I played with it briefly and had limited success or failure. Once I removed the =0 entries I could boot without crashing the problem was the profile didn't actually get loaded.
Tried that, but I was worried when I OC, I'd forget to load the profile boot into windows, leave the room, to find out I fried something.
So I was bent on finding a way to load a profile at startup instead. Since I'm OC'ing, I want the fans on right away. In the Bios would be ideal.
I was able to get profiles loading by game, but I have 10 or 15 games installed, assigning a profile for each is time consuming. Make a change, or uninstall System tools and you have to go through all that again.
Instead I ran CoreTemp to load at startup and made a rule to start the Fan Profile when CoreTemp Starts. It works. Now I can continue up'ing the OC.
It would be nice if H2C was ESA and showed up in the nvidia Control Panel.
Data: "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\nTuneCmd.exe" boot "C:\Documents and Settings\my user name\Local Settings\Application Data\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\Profiles\osbootpf.nsu"
In my case the change was made in osbootpf.nsu, but I guess that if you want to load some other .nsu file at boot, change the name in that to what you want and add the value to the registry.
I had success auto loading a custom profile (overclocks GPU and higher CPU, GPU fan speeds) when starting Crysis; I used profile policies in Nvidia performance to accomplish this
I tried to do the same when starting COD4, it didn't work.
It looks like there should be a delay before a game/application start before a custom profile can be loaded automatically.
Is there an SDK kit for this software? If so, should have command codes listed, then then just editing the profiles with a pause command should work... providing there
is such a pause command.
Thought you all would like to know that some users over at My630i.com have reported that if you wish to OC your system you really ought to uninstall the ESA software first, do your OC and tests. Once your stable reinstall ESA so you can adjust your fans to suit. The reason being when you've OC'd in the BIOS with ESA still in place each time you boot to the desk top ESA puts your system back to the pre-OC'd state. If your worried about heat then set higher fan speeds before uninstall, they should remain at the level set as the speed is written to the MIO board.
In any event you shouldn't use ESA to OC, things just get too messy. Another option is to do away with ESA alltogether and install an aftermarket fan controller, you can set case lights prior to uninstall and they will remain afterwords.
Desmithnc
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September 30th, 2008 14:00
Thank you for sharing that information, I was thinking about doing the samething with my system & I do not want to throw my new XPS730 into a mess already.... If anyone has a solution to this problem please share...
XPS730 AirCooled Edition
Q9550 overclocked to 3.2mhz
GTX260 SupperClocked + & still running cool at 53 Deg. C
atbglenn
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September 30th, 2008 15:00
kevink37
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October 1st, 2008 03:00
Xelkos
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October 1st, 2008 04:00
Tried 55%, sure is noisy. :smileyhappy:
Really amazes me that a computer manufacturer can put out system without thoroughly testing them out. Almost feels like I paid $1400 for a beta machine. But this system is worlds apart from my former Dimension 8400 (Pentium 4, Prescott).kevink37
139 Posts
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October 1st, 2008 04:00
Xelkos
213 Posts
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October 1st, 2008 04:00
Was looking at the stock CPU heatsink, and it shows a decal pointing as airflow to the back... but where is the fan? Inside?
Have been giving this Vantec 92mm Stealth Fan some thought and installing in the back of the case for maybe a better cool-air flow around/through the heatsink area.
Noticed the OEM GeForce 9800 GT gets a bit warm in the back near the venting area; not sure whether to install a slot fan there, or not. I don't want to have video card issues like I had with my Dimension 8400, thus why I went for the two year full coverage warranty.
mjr_nightmare
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October 1st, 2008 15:00
I want to OC in the Bios and have nvidia performance load fans settings only. Can't OC very much if the fans don't kick in properly.
After seeing all the posts on various forums nTune and nvidia performance profiles lock up the computer loading them when Windows starts(XP and Vista). Check this post is http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t42073.html he may be on to something. Don't use nPerformance to OC. You will go insane trying.
NB:If you can't get back into the OS after setting a profile to load with a rule, restart in safe mode and set the performance service (nvidia) to disabled, reboot and login normally, uninstall nvidia performance and re-install.
The software is not too smart and writes all setting to the .nsu profile. Even though all I did was change the fan settings in the nvidia Control panel. If you edit the .nsu in notepad, you'll see it has the ram, fsb, memory settings etc... but I never touched them. Did I say write my RAM setting, No! So why write them. This means you can't use profile created @ 2.4GHz when you OC in the bios to 3GHz. Since it will just set you back to 2.4GHz.
PS. If you are like me and only want use a single app to control the fans, CPU, Chassis and GPU. My GPU Fans settings are greyed out in the Control panel, but if you edit the .nsu in notepad, you can set the GPU1 and GPU2 etc.. to 100%. So no need for Rivatuner, just to set them to 100%. However Rivatune will load the 100% GPUFAN without crashing the system.
Some entries in .the nsu files have "=0" like the GPUFAN01=0, when they probably are set otherwise or don't exist for that mobo or GPU. ie: TRAS=0, Setting TRAS to 0 should crash the comp, since it is probably set to 5-15 in the bios. I've seen other posts that say set anything @ =0 to =-1. I'll try it tonight. -1 might mean use what is in the bios.
I'm trying to find a list and explanation of each line, I'll post it if such a thing exists.
I played with it briefly and had limited success or failure. Once I removed the =0 entries I could boot without crashing the problem was the profile didn't actually get loaded.
kevink37
139 Posts
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October 1st, 2008 17:00
Yes, there is a fan inside the heatsink that blows the air in the direction shown.
Xelkos
213 Posts
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October 1st, 2008 22:00
There is an easier way to change settings other than going through the Nvidia Control Panel, and works a whole lot faster (just not as pretty).
C:\Users\YourUserName\AppData\Local\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune, drag the nsu profiles to the desktop, create shortcuts.
Just double-click the profile you want before launching the game, or exiting it, or whatever.
mjr_nightmare
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October 2nd, 2008 12:00
Tried that, but I was worried when I OC, I'd forget to load the profile boot into windows, leave the room, to find out I fried something.
So I was bent on finding a way to load a profile at startup instead. Since I'm OC'ing, I want the fans on right away. In the Bios would be ideal.
I was able to get profiles loading by game, but I have 10 or 15 games installed, assigning a profile for each is time consuming. Make a change, or uninstall System tools and you have to go through all that again.
Instead I ran CoreTemp to load at startup and made a rule to start the Fan Profile when CoreTemp Starts. It works. Now I can continue up'ing the OC.
It would be nice if H2C was ESA and showed up in the nvidia Control Panel.
JRosenfeld
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October 3rd, 2008 00:00
I noted that when I changed the fan speed of the GPU, clicked apply, a box came up about nTune. I clicked yes and it added a value to the registry at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
Dword: NVIDIA nTune
Data: "C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\nTuneCmd.exe" boot "C:\Documents and Settings\my user name\Local Settings\Application Data\NVIDIA Corporation\nTune\Profiles\osbootpf.nsu"
In my case the change was made in osbootpf.nsu, but I guess that if you want to load some other .nsu file at boot, change the name in that to what you want and add the value to the registry.
madmax2k1
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October 3rd, 2008 21:00
I had success auto loading a custom profile (overclocks GPU and higher CPU, GPU fan speeds) when starting Crysis; I used profile policies in Nvidia performance to accomplish this
I tried to do the same when starting COD4, it didn't work.
It looks like there should be a delay before a game/application start before a custom profile can be loaded automatically.
Xelkos
213 Posts
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October 6th, 2008 07:00
billybigfoot
287 Posts
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October 6th, 2008 09:00
Thought you all would like to know that some users over at My630i.com have reported that if you wish to OC your system you really ought to uninstall the ESA software first, do your OC and tests. Once your stable reinstall ESA so you can adjust your fans to suit. The reason being when you've OC'd in the BIOS with ESA still in place each time you boot to the desk top ESA puts your system back to the pre-OC'd state. If your worried about heat then set higher fan speeds before uninstall, they should remain at the level set as the speed is written to the MIO board.
In any event you shouldn't use ESA to OC, things just get too messy. Another option is to do away with ESA alltogether and install an aftermarket fan controller, you can set case lights prior to uninstall and they will remain afterwords.