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February 20th, 2003 17:00

Thermal Shutdown

We are having Thermal Shutdown problems on various machines. The fans are working fine. What could it be? Please help...

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February 27th, 2003 19:00

I am having the same problem.  Have you found a cause or solution yet to this issue?

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February 28th, 2003 10:00

No, no solution yet.

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February 28th, 2003 20:00

MengoNumber1,

Thanks for using the Dell Community Forums.

Here are some steps that may help resolve the thermal shutdown issue.

Clear the system event log.

Power the system up.
Press the < F2> key to enter System Setup.
Highlight System Event Log and press the < Enter > key.
Highlight Clear System Event Log and press the < Enter > key.
Press the < Esc > key twice to restart.


Uninstall then reinstall Dell OMC, Dell DMI, or Dell Inspector.

Click Start, then click Settings, click Control Panel and select Add/Remove Programs.
Scroll through the list of installed applications and locate Dell OMC, Dell DMI, or Dell Inspector.
Double-click Dell OMC, Dell DMI, or Dell Inspector.
When prompted, click to select remove.
Restart the system.


Uninstall the Dell Thermal Shutdown Utility.

Unload the Dell Thermal Shutdown utility by using the Dell Utility Diskette and running Remove.exe.

Check to see if the airflow into the computer is blocked. Blocked case apertures, or placing the system in an enclosed area can cause the system to overheat.


Unplug the external power cord from the back of the system.
Wait 5 seconds for flea power to drain.
Open the chassis.
Remove the heatsink.
Reseat the processor.
Reseat the VRM, if applicable.
Reinstall the heatsink.
Reattach the external power cord to the back of the system.
Power on the system.

Respectfully,

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March 5th, 2003 17:00

Just wondering if any of the above worked for anybody? I upgraded the BIOS to A04, but was having that "Thermal Shutdown" problem previous to that..still am. It seems that the machine shuts itself off if it doesn't sense any activity for about a minute or two.

The directions above don't make any sense to me because when I go into BIOS at bootup, There is no such thing as "System Event Log" nor "Clear System Event Log". Are these to be found under BIOS or in Windows Admin Tools?

I also can't find the files called "Dell Thermal Shutdown Utility" anywhere. Is this posted anywhere on the Dell site for download? I sure couldn't find it.

I own three Dell Optiplex GS200 (small network) and all three of them shut down by themselves due to a "Thermal Event". Pretty aggravating! All the fans are working properly, and nothing is blocking the airflow into the chassis.

If you guys have found the magic cure, please share it.
David

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March 10th, 2003 14:00

I work for an independent school district and have purchased and used many different models of DELL computers (over 750 computers).  We have never had the thermal shutdown issue until now.  And it is happening on the model Optiplex 260.  I never know who will be next to call and say that they had a thermal event and lost their data.  The common denominator seems to be the disk drive, but I read where someone had it happen just by simply touching the computer.  We have to be able to use the disk drives because students save files to take home to work on.  Of course they lose everything when the computer shutsdown.  Reformatting and loading the system back is not an option for me nor should it be.  These are brand NEW computers.  All that has been done to them is the normal setup when first turned on and Microsoft Office 2000 installed.  We have 50 of these, and frankly I am ready to send them back if DELL does not do something about it.  I did the suggested solutions, or at least the ones that would work.  I could not get my DELL CD to find the Thermal Shutdown Utility to uninstall it.  Can anyone be more specific?  I am familiar with editing the registry if I need to do this.  Someone said that using anti-static mats might help, or so they seem to help in their situation.  I can get some, but I shouldn't have to.  This is a DELL computer problem and THEY NEED TO FIX IT.  We are getting ready to purchase another computer lab, but am holding off until I see how this problem is resolved.  Will be grateful for all solutions.

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March 11th, 2003 10:00

I agree, Dell is responsible for those computers. We bought from Dell because we have had no problems in the past with Dell. I could not find the Thermal Shutdown Utility to uninstall it also. It seems to have something to do with the disk drives; just the ones who use it are having this problem. We have anti-static mats and it still happens. Dell should be giving more solutions.

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March 11th, 2003 11:00

We have 40 Dell Optiplex 260 machines installed. All of them are mounted, horizontal, under the tabel.

After 1 day we had 2 machines shutting down automaticaly and when you turned the machines on, an error appeared.

"Alert! Previous shutdown due to thermal event. Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility"

And now, after 1 week, we have about 6 machines with this problem. Some of them have this problem everytime and some others once a day and sometimes once in 2 or 3 days.

Together with Dell Supportdesk we have tried a lot to get this problem solved. But still the machines shutdown automatically.

We have MS Windows2000 installed. There is no Dell software installed. Other software is MS Office 2000 and some tools like Acrobat Reader etc...

We hope Dell will solve this problem soon...........

 

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March 17th, 2003 20:00

Good day folks - anyone find a definite solution yet to the "thermal event shutdown"?

I work at a college in Saskatchewan with roughly 500 computers and 2500 users including students. Our standing purchase order with Dell is for the GX260 desktop. We've received about 2 dozen by now, and at least two are suffering the spontaneous shutdown due to a thermal event. Upon reboot the BIOS states;

"Alert! Previous shutdown due to thermal event. Strike the F1 key to continue, F2 to run the setup utility"

One of them just shuts down for no apparent reason, the other shut down when the user inserted a floppy disk. His machine has also been observed to shut down without warning or provocation - such as inserting media. We've got a Dell tech coming out to replace the motherboard and heatsink in that machine.

I've read from other posts on the Dell forum that this may or may not solve the problem. My concern from a tech support standpoint is that, even if the problem is solved by replacing the mobo/hs, we cannot afford the downtime and administrative overhead involved with such a solution. We need machines that work correctly, out of the box, over the warranty period. The occasional defect is accepted but... 10 to 20% of our orders? We're hoping for a solution by the end of the month or we'll need to modify our standing purchase order.

Del-Mel suggests a routine that involves uninstalling/reinstalling software and reseating a couple chips including the CPU. The overhead in that fix is just too much if you've got dozens of GX260's to maintain. Further, I've also read another Dell Forum user's report that the fix did not work.? Anybody else come up with a solution? Anybody cancel their standing order yet? Given the substantial attention this problem has received on the forums, we'd be fools to continue ordering GX260's knowing there's a good chance they'll fail and consume  valuable administrative resources. Both ours' and Dell's.

Dell, have you got this one figured out yet?

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March 18th, 2003 17:00

I had a similar Thermal issue with a Precision 450 Dual Xeon right out of the box.  Would only last about 20 seconds or less before it would shut off.

Phoned Dell - they suggest to check the heat sinks, so I did and this is what I found:

Turns out it was the heatsink on the second processor was not attached - one retaining clip was not in place and the heat sink was lodged in at about a 20 degree angle (no contact with CPU.)

Cleaned and re-greased the heatsink/cpu, put the heatsink/retaining clips back in place and now all appears to be copacetic.

 

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March 18th, 2003 19:00

This is a critical problem with 75% of our GX260 (3.06GHz) machines!

Fixing each one by hand is not a solution.

Please DELL, are you listening?

Can you please provide an update here?

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March 18th, 2003 23:00

im not 100% sure, but the GX260 has a "static" history.

one common issue is when you insert a floppy disk, it shuts down with an thermal shutdown error. the real cause is the static electricity generated inside somehow.

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March 19th, 2003 00:00

Thanks for the "static" info, although I don't believe that is the problem in the cases I'm trying to resolve.

In two cases, the fan did stop so that was a valid error.

What I would like to find out is if this is *real* problem that will affect the majority of machines we have OR just a case of a bad batch of fans.

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March 19th, 2003 00:00

inetguru, you say 75% of your machines suffer the thermal event shutdown, and the fan was the problem in just two cases. What of the others? I bet if you pop the cover you'll note that the fans are fine. I suspect it's a bad power supply issue, or a m/b grounding problem. Other threads on the same issue note that Dell's final approach was to replace both. Is that a viable solution in your lab? Personally, I'd rather not have a Dell tech out every two weeks, interrupting work to replace parts. Downtime's downtime, free parts or not.

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March 19th, 2003 01:00

The large majority of them responded to being rebooted, and a few I didn't see what was done.

Time is money - free parts or not:  Exactly!!

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May 2nd, 2003 19:00

Of the approximately 1500 Dell machines we have, 400 are GX260 machines.  Of those, about 10 machines perform the Thermal Event shutdown.  I can live with those statistics however, on the machines that are giving me the "Previous Thermal Event" message, I cannot get them to clear.  I have tried clearing the Event Log with no luck.  I have performed a re-image on the machines after clearing the log but the error message keeps returning.  I cannot put these machines back into service until a user can turn them on without seeing the error message.  Are there any further/new ideas on clearing this message?

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