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April 4th, 2004 21:00

Battery Tips

Here's a nifty trick i learned from my uncle about notebook batteries.

Problem:

Your batteries life cycle (500 charges/discharges) is becoming shorter and shorter.

Why:

You probably leave your battery charging for a long time, even if your battery is fully charged.

What happens:

Picture this: A barrel is left standing in a waterfall.  Water flows in, until the barrel is full.  But, the ignorant lazy person who left the barrel filling up with water decided that the barrel should just stay there.  So what happens?  That waterfall continues and continues to drop water on the barrel. Soon, the barrel is overflowing with water.  All the water that was previously in the barrel is "leaking out".

So, in notebooks, whenever the battery is left there charging, it starts to charge, keeps charging until the battery is full, and then discharges all the excess power. Theres one cycle of power lost.

Solution:

Take the battery out whenever you decide to use AC power.  This way, the battery isnt charging/discharging itself. 

 

Hey by the way if i said anythin wrong here.....please, please correct me. i dont want to provide false info, i just want to spread the good word.

Message Edited by Raven1er on 04-04-2004 06:57 PM

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April 4th, 2004 21:00

Raven1er,

In my opinion, your info is 100% correct!! I too beleive that removing the bat when on AC is the solution to save battery life. Unfortually i learnt the hard way and ended up having to buy a new battery to replace my old one which i did not adopt this technique of removing when on AC.

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April 4th, 2004 21:00

Thanks.  My uncles IBM ran out of battery power in less than 5 months because of this.  I should post this in the First time Users board. i'll do that.

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April 4th, 2004 23:00

Your analogy is false. it doesn't count as a cycle every single time you use the battery. For example, if you charge the battery, using it for 1 minute, then charge it again, it doesn't 'count' as a cycle - modern LiIon batteries JUST DONT work that way. The charging circuitry in your notebook DOESN'T just dump power into the battery all the time - if it did that, you'd find a leaking battery the first time you left it in for a few hours.

If you want to know what WILL kill your battery, its the following: Discharging below 3%. Just dont do that,and you battery will last for its designed period.

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April 4th, 2004 23:00

I've replied to your post in the First Time Users forum with a little more depth as to WHY it doesn't work this way. No reason for you to be embarrased, because battery chemistry is a complex (but cool!) topic...

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April 4th, 2004 23:00

 sorry. didnt know

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April 7th, 2004 21:00

Matt
This is along the lines of the age old question “Should I turn my computer off at night (I do)
What about the AC Adapter? Is there any perceivable advantage to unplugging the AC Power supply (With the green LED on) when the computer is shut down?
I would think that the only power being used is the miniscule current needed to power the LED, but what about heat?
On my Desktop I simply turn off the surge protector, but the Inspiron is plugged into another surge protector that is not easily accessible
I realize this is less-than a critical issue.
Cheers
t

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April 16th, 2004 15:00

tcbb -

Srry took so long to get back to you - your post got lost in the pile!

leaving it plugged in is fine. No difference between that and unplugged. Things only generate heat when they use power, so if its not carging and not running, no heat will be generated. The power used by the LED is miniscule.

Theres also no reason to turn of the power strip on your desktop either. In fact, I would recommend against it, so that your CMOS battery is constantly being charged.

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May 7th, 2004 14:00

concerning the issue about leaving the battery in.... you said the circuitry keeps it from overcharging but what i have heard the problem is is that the battery slowly discharges on its own then when the circuitry detects that the battery is not at 100 percent (when it drops to 99) it charges again to 100 percent and this type of cycle is what causes problems
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