2007FP - Which Panel Is Better? (PVA / IPS)

Question

Hi All,   I purchased 2 of the 2007FP moniotrs in Australia ..... I was happy with them until I noticed some dead pixels in one and the blurryness factor. (The origional 2 monitors I recieved were the SAM PVA models ... rev A02)   I asked for replacments and was issued with them promplty ... the new monitors I recieved were rev A02 ... HOWEVER, I now have 1 PVA and 1 IPS and they are very noticebly different .... 1 is brighter that the other and they just display text and other images differnetly (not realy sure which I would call better).   I am going to contact DELL Australia and get this sorted out ASAP (so that I at least have 2 of the same monitor), however I really dont know which monitor I should now be asking for, i.e. is the IPS or PVA hardware better?   PLEASE, somone suggest which panel I really should get??? ... the PVA one is brighter which looks better, but it might be a littl less sharp ... ?   I have read a so many posts ans other websites and reviews and I am SO confused ... HELP somone (all I wanted was a good dual monitor setup!).     Many thanks.       Cheers Rhetty

bytor65 · Answer

Personally I can't stand the PVA panel because of the way the color shifts if you move your head.

Brightness? I turn it way down anyway.

PVA is just like MVA in this picture:
http://www.pbase.com/peterguidry/image/64639195

PVA shifts. IPS is stable. I would go for IPS in a heartbeat.

I really wanted to buy this monitor until I found out I have to play the lotto about which type of screen I get.

gpro · Answer

more links on panel types:
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_monitor&message.id=63147#M63147

rhetty, maybe you should edit your other post to point here ;)

How can Dell do this and call it the same monitor?

rhetty7 · Answer

Yeah I can see that color shifts are bad... but the blacks are terrible on the IPS. I cant see half of the black points from this webpage: (but I can on the PVA)

http://www.epaperpress.com/monitorcal/index.html

The IPS seems sharper but in an oversharpened pixely kinda way ... the PVA almost look cartoon like (sorta cool).

Ahh mannn ... I dont know which is worse :-(

Leaning towards IPS I think /

R

SR45 · Answer

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1039222  Perhaps this forum sticky will help a little regarding different panels

rhetty7 · Answer

I fiddled with the gamma and video card settings a little and was able to improve the blacks substantially on the IPS monitor!.

After staring at the screens (in clone mode) for WAYYY too long ... Im thinking the IPS is probably better (They really are very different though).

I hope I can actually get 2 of these now :-(

Ill be reading this thoroughly site before I buy something next time though ... that's for sure.

R

bytor65 · Answer

@gpro wrote:
more links on panel types:
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_monitor&message.id=63147#M63147

rhetty, maybe you should edit your other post to point here ;)

How can Dell do this and call it the same monitor?

Tell me about it. Doesn't even seem to be a place to complain about this behavior. These are two totally different types of screens with totally different behavirors.

I know exactly which one I want. Dell doesn't know which one they are selling. I have to pay several hundred dollar lottery to have 50/50 shot at getting the right one. Is this any way to do buisness.

theconfuzzinggu · Answer

I totally agree, I'm looking at getting two 1907fps and i'm stuck with a 50/50 chance of getting different things, how can you dual screen with two different monitors?! DELL please fix this issue

gpro · Answer

...then there's the dead pixel lottery :( consumers = chumps

DakkonA · Answer

I've read up on all the drama surrounding the 2x07 series, including reading through the entire 93-page thread about the banding issue, as I've been strongly considering buying the 2007FP; the 2007WFP is a bit smaller than I'd prefer, and I've heard that ATI doesn't handle changing aspect ratios well.

I talked to a Sales Rep today who told me that the panel used in 2007FP is S-IPS. Unfortunately, I'm not sure that she didn't think S-IPS was really a shipping method, because she said "it would be through S-IPS" in response to "What panel type/make does the UltraSharp 2007FP use? (S-IPS? PVA?)."

I'm prone to thinking she had no idea because the first Sales Rep I tried using chat with logged out immediately, and the first one I actually talked to told me to contact Tech Support, which just refused since I didn't own the thing yet. I'm considering just buying it and then returning it for a refund within 21 days if it isn't as promised by the Sales Rep, but I'm going to ask another Sales Rep later tonight, and maybe a 3rd just to be sure.

Message Edited by DakkonA on 08-13-200606:43 PM

Update: Another salesperson told me, a lot more definitively, that it was PVA. In sum, bytor is right: it's both and they don't have a set panel.

Message Edited by DakkonA on 08-13-200610:30 PM

bytor65 · Answer

Sales reps know nothing. It is essentially a call center. Minimal training.

Chris M. Overall the most helpfull Dell staff I have come across admits they have NO WAY of knowing what type of screen you will get. I think this is the most honest answer you will get.

Other than that you have to rely on users to see what is currently shipping. From what I can tell it is a mix of both.

I got mine before it was known they had changed from S-IPS. I got a PVA and was very unhappy. On top of that it was an A00 (before there was a fix) so it had banding a text blur as well. I returned it for a refund rather than waste my time hoping/trying to get a decent panel from Dell.

Also Dell policy in Canada is you only get a refund if the panel is defective. 15% restocking fee to return something that is not technically broken, so I didn't want to take a chance getting stuck paying that if they shipped me a fixed PVA panel next.

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