2408WFP Continued

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curtis_rick wrote:

 

Please don't try to wiggle out of what you said!  You said the monitor as it was in REV A00 was 'In Spec". Perusing the thread "Re: 2408WFP rev A01 is out, but what are the changes?" will testify to that. Nothing you said was taken out of context!  

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In other words your trying to say that if I tell anyone in any post that their monitor is in spec it automatically applies to everyone and every problem they are having regardless of the actual context or meaning., thats kind of painting things with a broad brush don't you think?

 

 

 

Specifically in that exchange we were talking about brightness, or at least I was, turned out what the other individual was referring to as brightness was actually VA color shift not brightness.

 

 

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@Fede78 wrote:
Jimmy... why in europe monitor go out of factory with A00 firmware in september?

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I'm trying to verify that right now, as soon as I know I'll post it.

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@nruri wrote:

I've had my 2408WFP for over a month now, but I only got a chance to really start using it this past weekend. While browsing some web pages, particularly ones that are white in colour, I noticed that the left side of the monitor displays the white with PINK. I thought it was the way I was sitting, or my colour settings so I changed both. The pink is definiately there. My monitor is an A01.

 

I'm over my 21 days so I don't think I can return this monitor to Dell. Has anyone had this issue?

Also what options do I have since I am over the return and exchange period? The pink is very noticable on light colours.

 

Any help appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Shawn

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As other said, it is "normal" on this monitor.  I've noticed that if I shift my view so that the pink part of the screen is DIRECTLY in front of me (as if the left side of the monitor is the middle), it goes away.  Seems like a viewing angle dependent issue.  Could be exacerbated by the problems inherent to *VA panels, but definitely also part of this particular monitor's quirks.

 

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@tenknics wrote:

4) after digging through some posts I decided to copy someone elses custom RGB settings of 96,92,98 and it works great. Brightness is currently set at 15 but thats just random..Dunno how bright this should be cause my CRT is pretty darn dark...Any help advice? im sure its very subjective..

 

Message Edited by tenknics on 10-06-2008 04:38 PM

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I'm assuming these were MY settings you picked up (they look familiar, LOL!) -- but keep in mind, I used those as a starting point for HARDWARE calibration.  Also, they varied a lot monitor to monitor.  Seems to me that if you aren't doing hardware calibration and only using the monitor's settings, others posted something somewhere on these threads about using custom RGB settings in the 60's (not the 90's).  I'm too lazy to go off looking for the posts myself, but perhaps someone will repost them.

So just a summary of my new A01...

1) Running at 1920x1200.

 

2) cleartype off. sharpness at 40; perfect..Everything is sharp and readable if not more compared to my 19" viewsonic CRT. Should I bother with that software program to get like 42-45 sharpness?

3) played a game  (DOTA, WC3 mod) and hacked the registry so it would play at the native 1920x1200 panel reso, and it looked and played great. Experienced no input lag, and if it was there, didn notice any.

4) after digging through some posts I decided to copy someone elses custom RGB settings of 96,92,98 and it works great. Brightness is currently set at 15 but thats just random..Dunno how bright this should be cause my CRT is pretty darn dark...Any help advice? im sure its very subjective..

 

5) really happy with my purchase. got it for 25%+ free shipping. Grand total $554 and change.

Very happy so far.

 

P.s.

 

Im runnin DVI into the Dell and vga into my Viewsonic crt. Dual setup is nice.

Really glad I didnt get the $27" because the dot pitch on the 24 is perfect for me. :)

 

I tried going down to the 60s, it looked really really bad. This monitor out of the box wasnt that crazily over calibraited just bright...The colors are pretty darn close to my pro Viewsonic right next to it..right now im at 93 91 90

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@ShnikeJSB wrote:

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As other said, it is "normal" on this monitor.  I've noticed that if I shift my view so that the pink part of the screen is DIRECTLY in front of me (as if the left side of the monitor is the middle), it goes away.  Seems like a viewing angle dependent issue.  Could be exacerbated by the problems inherent to *VA panels, but definitely also part of this particular monitor's quirks.

 

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Hi ShnikeJSB,

Do you mean you experiment this pink tint problem with a lot of your 10 2408 ?

Does it vary from one 2408 to another ?

Does calibration help ?

Here we've also some 2408, half of them have a noticeable pink tint and we were not able to  reduce it via calibration. On the other, this is less noticeable.  So we just have to live with it.

Does an appropriate ambient light can help ?

 Thank you for your help/advice

Hi !

 

I did get my 2408 on 21th of September and i did get rev A00. But for me the monitor works fine, so i will not send it back.

 

Martin

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@ShnikeJSB wrote:

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@nruri wrote:

I've had my 2408WFP for over a month now, but I only got a chance to really start using it this past weekend. While browsing some web pages, particularly ones that are white in colour, I noticed that the left side of the monitor displays the white with PINK. I thought it was the way I was sitting, or my colour settings so I changed both. The pink is definiately there. My monitor is an A01.

 

I'm over my 21 days so I don't think I can return this monitor to Dell. Has anyone had this issue?

Also what options do I have since I am over the return and exchange period? The pink is very noticable on light colours.

 

Any help appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Shawn

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As other said, it is "normal" on this monitor.  I've noticed that if I shift my view so that the pink part of the screen is DIRECTLY in front of me (as if the left side of the monitor is the middle), it goes away.  Seems like a viewing angle dependent issue.  Could be exacerbated by the problems inherent to *VA panels, but definitely also part of this particular monitor's quirks.

 

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Well in addition to ShnikeJSB comment, I've done some testing with various ambient light conditions.

 

I definitively confirm that the 2408 looks ways better when enough light are coming onto the screen (once the monitor is properly calibrated).

 

Panel non-uniformity (like the pink tint) are less or no more noticeable.

Also, fonts are clearer and sharper (if you've set the sharpness to a good value:40-43).

 

It explains why once can find a 2408 very good (in an office environment, with sun light and/or neons) and another quite bad (in a dark room).

 

The solution could be to put a small desktop lamp beside your 2408.

This also helps to reduce eyestrain.

 

 

So Im seriously considering buying some hardware based color calibrator, does anyone have any experience with them? how are the spyders? I was looking at the Spyder2Express because if was the cheapest model?

Anyone had any input or sugguestions on this? thanks

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@martidi wrote:

Hi ShnikeJSB,

Do you mean you experiment this pink tint problem with a lot of your 10 2408 ?

Does it vary from one 2408 to another ?

Does calibration help ?

Here we've also some 2408, half of them have a noticeable pink tint and we were not able to  reduce it via calibration. On the other, this is less noticeable.  So we just have to live with it.

Does an appropriate ambient light can help ?

 Thank you for your help/advice

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Hello!  :smileyhappy:

 

As far as I can tell, every one of the monitors has the pink issue, and it is always on the bottom left.  Some are more noticeable than others (MY screen seems to be among the worst... Of COURSE... LOL), but I can definitely see it on all of them.

 

I honestly really don't remember what it was like before calibration, but seeing as it is most likely a problem with the panel itself, I highly doubt calibration helps with the pink hue, unfortunately.

 

As for ambient light, another big problem we have is we are in an office environment, with row after row of extremely bright and eyestrain-inducing flourescent lighting in cubicles.  The measured light output (using my calibrator and software) showed it to be insane...  If I remember correctly, it was something crazy like 7000 lumens!  :smileysad:

 

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@tenknics wrote:
So Im seriously considering buying some hardware based color calibrator, does anyone have any experience with them? how are the spyders? I was looking at the Spyder2Express because if was the cheapest model?

Anyone had any input or sugguestions on this? thanks

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As far as I know, the Spyder2 series cannot correctly calibrate a Wide Gamut monitor like the 2408.  You'd have to step up to the Spyder3 variants to do it well.

So ive had this a01 for a few days now and Im loving it. I keep knocking on wood but I have found no problems. It will flicker in and out of power save mode if i leave it on the screensaver too long...or if I turn my monitor off and my computer goes idle...But after a few key stroke taps and a mouse wiggle it comes out of it, eventually..But its great. I really want to calibrate this baby tho...Wondering if its possible to RENT calibrators? dont think I cant afford to buy one just yet..

I'm also having the power save mode problem. I receive a dell 2408wfp a01 rev made in august and i thought that with this rev the power save mode problem was fixed. Basically when i turn off the monitor at night and then turn it on in morning the problem occurred and the monitor stucks in power save mode. After i turn it off and on a couple of times the problem fixed but it bother me a lot

Is normal that this happen with a rev 01? Is there some kind of solution?

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@vic1337 wrote:

I'm also having the power save mode problem. I receive a dell 2408wfp a01 rev made in august and i thought that with this rev the power save mode problem was fixed. Basically when i turn off the monitor at night and then turn it on in morning the problem occurred and the monitor stucks in power save mode. After i turn it off and on a couple of times the problem fixed but it bother me a lot

Is normal that this happen with a rev 01? Is there some kind of solution?

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My A01 does this too, and I know for SURE at least 1 other person at work with one has a problem with getting the monitor to "wake up" or be recognized when booting up.  It's a minor annoyance, and only does it once in awhile.  If I remember, you can turn off Power Saving mode in the menus somewhere (sorry, I took a sick day today, so I am not in front of my monitor currently).

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@DELL-Jimmy P wrote:

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@Fede78 wrote:
Jimmy... why in europe monitor go out of factory with A00 firmware in september?

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I'm trying to verify that right now, as soon as I know I'll post it.

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Hi Jimmy,

Any news about this ?

Thanx