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February 25th, 2006 20:00

Monitor E172FPb - power light flashes

Hi all
 
I have an E172FPb 17" flat panel that has been working faultlessly up to today.  The computer has been on all day (as is normal on a Saturday) and had gone into sleep mode.  When I tried to wake it up, the power switch light just blinks green.  I have tried un plugging it and re-booting the pc (Dimension 2400) but with no sucsess.  On attempting to switch it on, it displays for no more that 1 second before going blank and flashing the indicator lamp.
 
I have plugged in a spare monitor and all is fine, does anybody have any sugestions?  or is it bin fodder?

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March 22nd, 2006 19:00

Rics

I accept your point about altering components however this was advised by one of our electronics designers, it may be worth pulling the transistors out and checking them again.

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March 22nd, 2006 22:00

Rics and Nick

I'm going to attempt the exact same repair as was outlined in the beginning of the thread with the exact same components and board (Benq).  I'll let you know how it turns out.

Can't thank you guys enough for all the help.

Nov 5th=Bonfire night eh?

If this repair doesn't work can I throw my monitor on the blaze?

I'll bring a keg, that should show my gratitude properly :)

 

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March 23rd, 2006 05:00

LG73

 

Good luck, hope it works for you, currently I am sitting infront of a borrowed 17" CRT.  Its horrible.

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March 23rd, 2006 08:00

I just attempted the repair and failed. 2 transistors were bad so I decided to replace all 4 transistors and it still doesn't work. I double checked the new resistors and all appear to be fine. It appears to be more than just a transistor problem for me. Does anyone know where I could find a schematic for the BENQ DS-1107A?

Thank you all for providing good information.

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March 23rd, 2006 18:00

Nick,

Get the back off again for £ 5 or 6 its got to be worth a shot, my electronics guys advised not to mod the new transistors.

xOD,

When I contacted benq they couldn't sell me any components but offered me a repair to the board. You could try contacting their service department for some advice, you might be lucky and wangle a schematic from them (long shot I know)

LG73,

Lets get the batting average up, hope it works especially if there is the offer of a keg.

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March 23rd, 2006 18:00

Rics

I was going to give it another shot.

My "electronics expert" who also carried out the transplant just happens to be my boss, and the Managing Director! so I more or less had to accept his advice.  I plan to take the monitor back to work tomorrow and check to see if the transistors have failed.

Cheers

Nick

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March 24th, 2006 02:00

Rics

Should be done tomorrow although the guy who is doing the actual repair for me (my who step dad works for an engineering firm and has access to the needed tools and expertise) is balking a little at the size of the replacement transistors and the thought of modifying the cover to accomodate their size (the D44H8's).  I think he's just being overly cautious but is there any danger of introducing interference by cutting into the shielding (the cover)?

And just to cover the bases a little...  is it possible to visually discern whether a back light has bought the farm?

Hope fully tomorrow night I'll be viewing this thread through an lcd :)

Thanks again

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March 25th, 2006 04:00

I am officially viewing this thread on my newly repaired LCD!! 
 
I followed your advise, Rics, to the letter.  If this lasts at all I really will be indebted to you.  How lucky am I to stumble upon this thread?!?!  $3.00 for parts??  Not bad!
 
Thank you thank you thank you!
 
I'll let you know if I have any trouble down the line but for now it's working beautifully!
 
I kept the transistors in their original condition and modded the cover to accomodate the bigger size.
 
Thanks again to everyone.
 
 
 
 

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March 27th, 2006 23:00

Well, I figured out what was wrong. I recieved some false information regarding the need for insulating the heatsinks on the new transistors. They absolutely must be insulated!!!!! I just stuck some electrical tape on the chassis, put it back together and everything works!! I just hope it lasts. I got my monitor for free from a friend who was gonna throw it away. Just a couple bucks and I have a working LCD. I am thrilled!!

Thanks Everyone, I would buy you all a beer if I could!!

x0D

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March 29th, 2006 10:00

The latest update:-

I now have all the transistors out and they are all OK, one had got "a bit warm" and had affected the capacitor next to it but this also was fine, we also took out all the capacitors but no problem there.  My electronics expert (boss!) hasn't given up hope and the saga has not yet ended up in a wheely bin.

The fate of the E172FPb hangs in the balance.

I will let you all know

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March 29th, 2006 13:00

Sorry for the doube post, got a server error.

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March 29th, 2006 13:00

Something interesting happened to my monitor. I set my resolution to 1280 x 1024 as suggested by the monitor ( in the setup ). A half an hour later, the monitor appeared to be off. I hit the power button and the screen flashed back up for about 5 seconds and then went black and kept doing so . I turned it off and took a shower and when I came back, I hit the power button again and everything came up fine. I have since reset my resolution lower and it has been working great ever since. I suspect an overheating problem. Instead of modifying the chassis during the repair, I chose to modify the transistors instead so the lack of dissipation from the modifed heatsinks could be the problem. I am considering making custom heatsinks to circumvent this issue. Has anyone else had similar problems? What modification methods have you all used?

Thanks,

x0D

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March 29th, 2006 13:00

Something interesting happened to my monitor. I set my resolution to 1280 x 1024 as suggested by the monitor ( in the setup ). A half an hour later, the monitor appeared to be off. I hit the power button and the screen flashed back up for about 5 seconds and then went black and kept doing so . I turned it off and took a shower and when I came back, I hit the power button again and everything came up fine. I have since reset my resolution lower and it has been working great ever since. I suspect an overheating problem. Instead of modifying the chassis during the repair, I chose to modify the transistors instead so the lack of dissipation from the modifed heatsinks could be the problem. I am considering making custom heatsinks to circumvent this issue. Has anyone else had similar problems? What modification methods have you all used?

Thanks,

x0D

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March 29th, 2006 14:00

That sounds very similar to what I was seeing.

My boss suspects that the culprit may be the tubes pulling extra current and causing the transistors to fail. 

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April 1st, 2006 04:00

The problem I was having has not gone away. In fact it seems to be happening more frequently. The image flashes up on the screen for a few seconds and then goes black.  When this happens, I power down the monitor for about 5 minutes and power it back up and it seems to work fine. I notice it usually happens when I either reboot the system, unplug and replug the cable in, or when the system shuts the screen off and then tries to turn it back on. My power light stays bright when this issue occurs and does not blink. With a malfunctioning transistor, it did blink. As did the screen. I think the problem might be with one of the capacitors but Im not expert.  Has anyone else been experiencing this? Does anyone have a solution?
 
Thank You,
 
Justin
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