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July 28th, 2014 17:00

White temperature U2713H, i1 display pro

Hi, I'm to calibrate my U2713h with i1Display Pro, and waiting to find a solution (crash) for dispcalgui to validate the profile, I did some testing. 

I measured the temperature of the white and there is something wrong.
In aRGB or sRGB profile that I created the temperature is 6400K, as objective about, then I measured the white temperature with osd set to Color Temperature, and I found that by setting 5700K, probe detect 6500K, by setting 6500K the probe detects 7500K.
So I'm wondering ... my profile sRGB and aRGB that temperature actually have? 6500K or 5700K?

thank you

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July 29th, 2014 00:00

"Color temperature" as all precalibrated OSD optios are just that "factory precalibrated" of not very good quality.

CAL1/CAL2 and your custom white in "Custom color" are what i1DisplayPro measures if applied RG_phosphor correction. These are the ones you can trust.

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July 29th, 2014 06:00

Thanks again!

my use is photoshop, nothing 3d

1-Returning to the problem of the dominant green, if I can not run dispcalgui I can not verify this, maybe there are problems with some drivers, and I should reinstall windows, but Instead of doing this I could test everything on a virtual machine?

2 - in color menagement windows, in profile have several profiles that i have created, but what do I set as the default? 

In the advanced tab -> change system defaults, I only have the profile U2713H.icm this is right?

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July 29th, 2014 06:00

Thank you, any further question

1 - RG_phosphor the correction is automatically applied by i1 Display Pro with DCCS 1.5.3 right? then color profiles created contains this correction

2 -  which gamut is Custom colort?

3 - If I use use iprofiler i can select the white point, the type of correction (rg phosphor), and at the end of the profile creation I see the curves LUT changed,  and how you said in another thread this change is at the level GPU  right? Even dispcalgui makes changes only in the GPU right?

4 - the sRGB and aRGB profile created with DCCS  seems to me that they have a greenish tint, but I can not verify / correct it without dispcalgui? 

5 - with any of the latest video cards AMD R9 would have fewer problems than my geforce gtx 660?

Thanks again you for your patience

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July 29th, 2014 06:00

1- Profile does not contain correction, "measurements"  have applied this cotrrection, but "YES" it is what you say.

2-native gamut, full gamut of GB-LED backlight

3-Yes, GPU for both of them.

4-Yes, verify white point with DispcalGUI, but keep in mind another cause: Display center where i1DisplayPro measures can be right ~D65, but you may have a bad uniformity screen that in most of the screen have a cyan tint, so you see it.
Dell does not guarantee uniformity, buy NEC spectraview (and maybe multisync) or Eizocoloredge if you want that quality. For Dells, Asus & co it's like playing lotto so better buy from a trusted reseller at low price, measure its uniformity with an i1displaypro and if it does not match your quality requirements return for refund. We buy Dell/Asus/Benq for the price/quality... not for quality.
Run a display uniformity test on DispcalGUI. Its under Tools menu, it is far better than i1Profiler/DCCS uniformity test.

6- You will not have banding issues if calibrate in GPU with an AMD card or a nvidia Quadro. Even with an ATI card from 5 years ago you will not have banding issues: it's nvidia & intel iGPU fault.

In order to use all features of these displays an AMD FirePro or nvidia Quadro under MS Windows will give you access to 10bit workflow under supported applications like Photoshop. Entry/cheap pro cards like these are about 180euro but low computing power, they are just an entry level solution for photographers & 10bit workflow.

If you want one pro cards like these but with more computational power they are very expensive 400-1000€ and its use is 3D modeling and render with certified drivers.

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July 29th, 2014 07:00

1-ask DispcalGUI forum.

2- No this is wrong, do NOT alter advanced settings, reset it to deafult. Just select your monitor in devices tab, select use my configuration for this device, select the profile that applies to your current OSD mode, set it as default.
Let's say that you have CAL1=AdobeRGB and CAL2=Custom (Native gamut). Before opening ANY color managed app you must set its asociated profile as default. Most color managed apps read default profile only at this time.

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July 29th, 2014 13:00

1 - ok then to use photoshop without having to change each time profile, I set as my default profile aRGB so when I open it photoshop loads the profile aRGB.

2 - in dell display manager If set CAL 1 for some applications and CAL 2  for others, does not set profile as default every time I change my application?
That is, if I have two programs color managed, and are two different profiles, each time I have to manually set the profile as default....not change it display manager?

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July 29th, 2014 13:00

No autoload profile unless you tweak something in registry. Someone posted it before in some thread about DDM.

But FOR ME it's easier to have a shortcut in my Windows desktop to color managament and set DDM to manual. 6 clicks.

It's even easier, since for personal use my prefreneces are Firefox as the best color managed browser (and free) and Media player classic home cinema (which is color managed under "EVR custom" or "madVR")... so I'm 99% of my time at CAL1=AdobeRGB watching colors as they should be whatever I'm doing: Photoshop, firefox, TV shows...

When I need a non color managed app to be rendered properly, just click in DDM CAL2=sRGB. Since they are color managed, they do not care about which profile (non calibrating GPU LUT) is set.

Do as you want but for me the easiest way is that.

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July 31st, 2014 15:00

ok perfect, in fact the process is quick

further question
after I do the calibration, such as aRGB in CAL 1, in windows color management I find selected the profile aRGB, but then before doing the calibration in CAL 2 which profile should I select? u2713h?

Thank you

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July 31st, 2014 16:00

I do not know what does DCCS but as a failsafe, select any profile that has no GPU LUT calibration, like:
-driver's U2713H.icm
-your U2713_CAL1_aRGB.icm
...

not a profile made with ArgyllCMS* or i1Profiler

*=ArgyllCMS can make profiles with no GPU LUT calibration.

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