Trouble with Archive services

I'm quite surprised to see anyone still using NW for archiving (actually I'm surprised to see EMC still supporting this with NW given that there is separate product line for archiving).

Given that you use 7.3.2 my first question would be - did this ever worked before? Second, did you try to use nsrclone from cmd line in verbose mode to see any additional messages? When your cloning job seems to wait for something do you have any pending requests?

Hi Hrvoje,



Are you referring to ArchiveXtender?
Since the option was available within NW I thought it would be handier for archiving. Does ArchiveXtender offer many extra features worth noting?

First use of archive service is with v7.3.2.
Have tried using nsrclone, but once source media was loaded, it waits. I manually loaded a (only) tape from cloning pool, but received the following in the NW Log;
"Volume 'ARCLONE01' ineligible for this operation.; Need a different volume from pool 'Indexed Archive Clone' "
No other reason/explanation is given.

I will try renaming the tape to a shorter name, and also trying different media.
Also, do you know any difference the Indexed Archive pool and the PC Archive pool, as I cannot find any reference to it in PDFs, but both are available for use. I will perhaps try these pools instead.

thanks,
Barry.

Yes, I was referring to eXtender product familly. They do have many many features there and I think what you are after is called diskxtender or something like that.


Could it be that you already have 1 clone on the data on that volume. By default (and you can't change it) NW will not allow you to have same clones on the same tape.


From nsr_pool manual:

     Any  archive data not directed to a pool with selection cri-
     teria is collected  in  the  Indexed  Archive  pool.   While
     Archive pool is the counterpart of Indexed Archive pool that
     does not store index entries. 

So it all comes done if you wish to browse archived data or not.

I might give it a try later for test, but I would suggest you contact your support to check it out.

Hi,

After the prompt to "Start Cloning", I managed to successfully run the nsrclone command from the client (earlier problem was due to the fact I had a clone already on the volume from a previous test as you guessed), but I was still left with the prompt and the archive job still hanging in limbo.

I switched to using the 'PC Archive' and 'PC Archive Clone' pools, but this made no difference. ('Archive' pool is for non-indexed, and both 'Indexed Archive ' and 'PC Archive' are for indexed archives).

I then dropped the cloning option, and although the archive completes, it fails verification (nsrarchive: could not find save set.) and consequently, it does not groom the data.

I can't see that there are too many other options to try out so perhaps I'll log a call with support.

Thanks for your help,
Barry.

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Barry Whitelaw

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Barry Whitelaw

Finally upgraded mine NW on laptop and did give it a try to archives. They work for me:

09/14/06 22:19:58 nsrd: C:\Appl\a\_AF_readonly Mount operation in progress
09/14/06 22:19:59 nsrd: hcrvelin:C:\tmp archiving to pool 'Indexed Archive' (hcrvelin.idxarchive.001)
09/14/06 22:20:01 nsrd: hcrvelin:C:\tmp done archiving to pool 'Indexed Archive' (hcrvelin.idxarchive.001) 8291 KB
nsrarchive: C:\tmp  8292 KB 00:00:03      4 files
nsrarchive completion time:  9-14-06 10:20p
 
Start cloning.
09/14/06 22:20:02 nsrd: C:\Appl\b\_AF_readonly Mount operation in progress
09/14/06 22:20:02 nsrd: hcrvelin:cloning session archiving to pool 'Indexed Archive Clone' (hcrvelin_c.idxarchive.001)
09/14/06 22:20:02 nsrd: cloning session: 1 save set(s) reading from hcrvelin.idxarchive.001.RO 8291 KB of 8291 KB
             pools supported: Indexed Archive;
09/14/06 22:20:04 nsrd: hcrvelin:cloning session done archiving to pool 'Indexed Archive Clone' (hcrvelin_c.idxarchive.001)
09/14/06 22:20:04 nsrd: cloning session:save sets done reading 8291 KB
09/14/06 22:20:05 nsrd: write completion notice: Writing to volume hcrvelin_c.idxarchive.001 complete
09/14/06 22:20:06 nsrd: hcrvelin: browsing
09/14/06 22:20:06 nsrd: C:\Appl\b\_AF_readonly Mount operation in progress
09/14/06 22:20:07 nsrd: hcrvelin:C:\tmp (9/14/06) starting read from hcrvelin_c.idxarchive.001 of 8291 KB
09/14/06 22:20:07 nsrd: hcrvelin:C:\tmp (9/14/06) done reading 8291 KB
09/14/06 22:20:07 nsrd: hcrvelin: done browsing
             pools supported: Indexed Archive Clone;
09/14/06 22:20:33 nsrd: write completion notice: Writing to volume hcrvelin.idxarchive.001 complete
 
 
C:\Documents and Settings\Hrvoje Crvelin>mminfo -S
ssid=4228495727 savetime=14/09/2006 22:19:58 (1158265198) hcrvelin:C:\tmp
  level=     sflags=vF       size=8490012      files=4          insert=14/09/2006
  create=14/09/2006 complete=14/09/2006 browse=forever  retent=forever
  clientid=40b32871-00000004-4509b330-4509b32f-00010000-c0a80005
                  annotation: "test #1";
  Clone #1: cloneid=1158265198  time=14/09/2006 22:19:58    retent=forever   flags=F
    frag@         0 volid=4278827150 file/rec=       0/0     rn=0 last=14/09/2006
  Clone #2: cloneid=1158265199  time=14/09/2006 22:19:59    retent=forever   flags=F
    frag@         0 volid=    637070 file/rec=       0/0     rn=0 last=14/09/2006
  Clone #3: cloneid=1158265445  time=14/09/2006 22:24:05    retent=forever   flags=F
    frag@         0 volid=4245272741 file/rec=       0/0     rn=0 last=14/09/2006
  Clone #4: cloneid=1158265446  time=14/09/2006 22:24:06    retent=forever   flags=F
    frag@         0 volid=4262049957 file/rec=       0/0     rn=0 last=14/09/2006

Hi Hrvoje,

Thanks for trying it out, good to know the feature works!
I have a call open with support and am trying out a few different things. I'll post up the solution here once found.

Regards,
Barry.