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July 10th, 2004 14:00
Accessing internet fine, but can't access other computers or workgroup.
I just installed a DSL modem to a wireless router (that is not hard-wired to any computer), and installed wireless network cards in 2 desktop PCs, both running XP. Both PCs can access the DSL fine, so they're each communicating with the router. I want to share the printer that is attached to one of the two computers.
I ran the XP network setup wizard on both PCs, used the name for the network it suggested ("MSHOME"), and rebooted both. But I can't access the network that supposedly was set up in that process. When I click on "View workgroup computers" on either PC, after several seconds I get this message:
Mshome is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource.
Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions.
The list of servers for this workgroup is not currently available.
I verified that the active user on each PC has "administrator" status.
I've searched the MS Knowledge Base and looked at FAQs here on the Dell site (both PCs are Dell Dimension), but I don't even know what to look for, what key words to search for.
Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks!


Flea_000
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July 10th, 2004 14:00
What does it say when you try to go there?
You may just not have anything shared?
Did you enable printer sharing too?
Theophan
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July 10th, 2004 15:00
When I go to Network Places, there is only one icon, an FTP site. On that page, when I click on "View workgroup computers," that's when it pauses and gives me the message that the workgroup is not available.
And on the computer with the printer attached, when I right-click on the printer and click on "sharing," it's already set to share.
Any other thoughts?
Theophan
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July 10th, 2004 15:00
Well, something just occurred to me, and it turned out to be the problem. I don't know how to solve it, yet, but at least I know what the problem is. I have Norton Internet Security on both PCs, and even though someone told me that if I have a hardware firewall on the router I just installed, I don't need the software firewall in NIS, these days it just seems like you just can't have too much protection, so I left them on.
So I just turned off the firewalls on both PCs and re-ran the network wizards, and BINGO, I can see both computers on my "workgroup."
The only problem remaining is that I'd like to turn those firewalls back on, and there's a way to tell Norton's firewall who a "trusted" computer is so it will let that one through, but Norton doesn't seem to "see" the other computer, or find it with its "wizard," so I can tell it to trust it. All it finds is the wireless networking card or the router, but not the other computer. I don't get it.
Anyway, the problem clearly is with my Norton Internet Security firewall, so unless any of you are familiar with that and can tell me how to tell it to trust the computers that Windows XP, at least, can see are networked to it, I'll "sign off" on this request. And thanks for your thoughts!
_Paladin
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July 10th, 2004 18:00
Theophan,
The NIS Trusted Zone can be configured manually. You should specify the IP address range being assigned by your router, typically 192.168.x 1 to 192.168.x.255, where x is dependent on your router. If you are running NIS 2004, consult page 115 of the NIS user's guide.
_Paladin
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July 10th, 2004 20:00
Theophan,
Glad you got it working. However, you would be better off entering the range of IP addresses being assigned by the router rather then the specific IP addresses. There is no guarantee your PCs will always receive the same IP address when they boot. If the router assigns a different address to one of the PCs you will lose File and Printer Sharing ability. Entering the range will solve this problem.
Theophan
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July 10th, 2004 20:00
Many thanks!
It wasn't the router I was needing to tag as "trustworthy," but my and my wife's PCs. When I followed what I mistakenly thought were directions for identifying all computers on the local network, and only found one, that it must have been the router. I eventually realized that instead it was identifying the IP address of the same computer that I ran that procedure on. So I did that on both PCs, entered each other's IP address on each in NIS, and presto, everything worked!
I apologize for wasting the time of any who read this little thread, but I really was at a loss, and it just hadn't occurred to me that it was Norton Internet Security that was preventing me from setting up the network, and once I figured that out, it wasn't obvious to me how to solve it. But eventually it worked out.
Many thanks again for the generous help of those who wrote to me!
Theophan
Theophan
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July 11th, 2004 00:00
Paladin said, "...you would be better off entering the range of IP addresses being assigned by the router rather then the specific IP addresses. There is no guarantee your PCs will always receive the same IP address when they boot."
Boy, that's interesting! I just looked at the Router setup page and it looks like there's a DHCP server or something that has a range listed for IP addresses, so I guess that's what you're talking about. I'll put that in, instead.
Thanks!
Braso
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August 7th, 2004 17:00
Theophan - don't think it was a waste!!! Thanks for the education. I am thanking God for getting this question answered!! I had the same problem and now it is working (after several other resolution attempts. Thanks again.
Braso
Clint Labarthe
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June 24th, 2005 18:00