Ghosting a D610 Laptop over network -- Is it possible???

Question

I've had a D600 for a year and ghosting over network is a monthly easy task.  I made a bootable CD with: NDIS2\570x\B57.dos  the DOS drivers and it boots from the CD directly, loads the network drivers and can dump or load images from a ghost server on the local network.   So.. I purchased a D610, and tried using the same ghost CD.. It boots OK, but the network drivers do not get loaded..  hmm.. something about Driver not found.  So.. the question is, which driver exactly do I need to make the D610 recognize it's NIC?...   I searched around this board and found some references that it was problematic based ont he BOIS version, so I tried all 3 that I could find, A02 A03 and A05.  same symptom.   can someone help me create a bootable network CD/floppy that I can ghost my D610????/   Thanks in advance.

jmwills · Answer

It can not boot becasue the NIC drivers are not the same.

JersWork · Answer

I can't tell you about the NIC in the D610,  but I can tell you this little trick.  The Ghost boot disk wizard can make a disk that will work with a 3C575 (PCMCIA) NIC.  I have used one of these to image several notebooks across a LAN,  and it works good.  The 3C575 NIC is a 10/100 NIC so it's not too slow either...

stormy1777 · Answer

Can anyone tell me what the correct NIC boot drivers for the D610 are???

I thought it's broadcom NIC same as the D600... please help, I can not backup/restore anything..

also you can not exchange the harddisks, they have a different fitting..

WHY is that?? why not build with some standard???

Charles A · Answer

I'm using bootable USB floppies. It worked for me using BIOS A05; GHOST 8.2; and the B57.DOS file for the D610.    Not sure if this is the same as for the D600; I don't have any D600. c:\dell\drivers\R87461\DOS\NDIS2\v7.65\B57.dos config.sys: DEVICE=
et\protman.dos /I:
etDEVICE=
et\dis_pkt.dosDEVICE=
et\B57.dosset PROMPT=$T $P$GLASTDRIVE = Z protocol.ini: [protman]drivername=PROTMAN$ [pktdrv]drivername=PKTDRV$bindings=nicintvec=0x60chainvec=0x66 [nic]drivername = B57$   As for the connector, you can CAREFULLY remove the adapter from the HD pins and swap it with the adapter for the D600.  Don't bend any pins.  The HDs are all the same connector (until you get into SATA).   *disclaimer:  the FORUM says it stripped invalid HTML.  I cannot tell what it changed, but the config.sys and/or protocol.ini may be invalid now. Message Edited by Charles A on 09-20-2005 08:41 PM

brnf · Answer

Hi there, being inspired by Charles A's contribution below, I tried the following successfully;using Ghost 2003, a D600 as Slave and the D610 as Master. 1. included an ancient CD driver to the bootimage - oakcdrom.sys2. made it the very first entry in my config.sys (as opposed to the last one with the D600) that's it. I noticed, that the order of booting the two devices made a difference too, howeverdid not investigate this in depth. My system files are very much alikes to Charles A's (which is no surprise I guess): Config.sys: DEVICE=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001DEVICE=
et\protman.dos /I:
etDEVICE=
et\dis_pkt.dosDEVICE=
et\b57.dosLASTDRIVE = ZAutoexec.bat: @echo offSET TZ=GHO-01:00prompt $p$g
et
etbind.comMOUSE.COMMSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:Z

Dakkon98 · Answer

@stormy1777 wrote:

WHY is that?? why not build with some standard???

The only difference between the 2 HDD`s are the case that holds them. Yes this is a change from C6xx series but a very minor one. Not something i'd whne about on the msg. boards :smileysurprised:

Now to the question at hand, Ghost bootable device with correct NIC drivers for a D610.

Have you got this working?

stormy1777 · Answer

not yet, I didn't have time to do the switch, I will dedicate a few hours next week maybe.. until then the D600 is used heavily and the D610 is idle.. my thinking was the they will be similar enough.. but i guess they are not.. I'll have to experiment with the above recommendations.. too bad there is no way to attach a file to this board with the .ISO of the CD or needed files..

thanks all for the help, i will post final outcome.

brnf · Answer

here (as previously threatened) the Win'98 recovery floppy files (everything else, in particular setramd.bat is Win'98 standard)   Note: no mouse drivers included - I favor 'key boarding'   BTW: some super natural html power decided to convert a sequenceof colon O into smilies, so be aware of the correct spellingwhich is: /testmemcolonOff hope nothing else gets altered   config.sys menuitem=NONET, Start computer without Network support.menuitem=NET,   Start computer with Network support. menudefault=CD,30menucolor=7,0 [NONET]device=himem.sys /testmem:Offdevice=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001   [NET]device=himem.sys /testmem:Offdevice=oakcdrom.sys /D:mscd001DEVICE=
et\protman.dos /I:
etDEVICE=
et\dis_pkt.dosDEVICE=
et\b57.dos   [COMMON]files=10buffers=10dos=high,umbstacks=9,256devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048lastdrive=z device=display.sys con=(ega,,1)   REM this for German localization onlycountry=049,850,country.sysinstall=mode.com con cp prepare=((850) ega.cpi)install=mode.com con cp select=850install=keyb.com gr,,keyboard.sys autoexec.bat @ECHO OFFif '%CONFIG%'=='NET' 
et
etbind.comset LglDrv=27 * 26 Z 25 Y 24 X 23 W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S 18 R 17 Q 16 P 15set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H 7 G 6 F 5 E 4 D 3 Ccall setramd.bat %LglDrv%set LglDrv= prompt $p$gMSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:Z set PATH=%PATH%;Z:\DOScopy Z:\Ghost\Ghost.exe %RAMD%:\copy Z:\Ghost\Wattcp.cfg %RAMD%:\%RAMD%:

brnf · Answer

Since I'm new here, I did not know, that a response to a question is not
automatically posted and visible to everybody - sorry. In fact I do not
even know exactly whether the response went out to Dakkon98 or stormy1777.

So here a few more details on the subject for everybody:

I was able to create a ghost image of a D610 on a D600 via TCP/IP peer-to-peer
connection The only change I made to my D600 backup CD for making it work with
the D610, was moving the CD driver to the top in config.sys - I've been using
oakcdrom.sys (comes with windows) successfully for all CD/DVD based ghosting I
did so far.

As previously mentioned, I noticed a strange "success-dependency" on the
physical notebook connection, for getting things up and running. However,
I did not spent a lot of time to investigate this problem in depth, I rather
came up with a setup "recipe" that worked reliably for me:

1. boot both PCs without being connected
2. start Ghost on both PCs
3. open the Masters (D610) TCP/IP dialog
4. connect the PCs now with a network cable
5. start TCP/IP on the slave (D600)
6. enter the slave's TCP/IP address at the master

done

Here's some more information that might help:
Ghost: 2003 edition
Network Diver identifies itself with: "Broadcom DOS NDIS2 Driver v.7.65 (040618)"
Boot medium: DVD+RW
Boot method: floppy emulation

So much for creating an image.

Restoring is an entirely different story though, because Ghost needs some

storage space for it's logfile, which is not necessarily available. SinceI don't know PC-DOS well enough for being able to create a RAM-drive, I switched to a Win'98 recovery floppy image - on the expense of moving Ghost out of the floppy image to a directory elsewhere on the CD/DVD. Despite of removing all bells and whistles I could not fit Ghost into this floppy image.

Since this posting is already somewhat lengthy, I'll post the pertaining config.sys and autoexec.bat separately.

fastflagsrt4 · Answer

I have figured out what Network Boot driver will work, with out changing anything on the hardware of the D610.   Use the NDIS2 driver for a Dell Optiplex GX280, and it will work perfectly for the D610.

stormy1777 · Answer

ok, finally had time to re-test. works just fine. the only difference is to replace the driver to the newer one..

this is the one I used:

c:\dell\drivers\R87461\DOS\NDIS2\v7.65\B57.dos

thanks for that post.. now it's working!! and I think this will work for both the D600 and D610, so I am happy again..

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