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February 14th, 2003 01:00
TrueMobile1184 lost connection with internet
I am at the end of my capablilities. I have networked a Dimension8200 / XP - Wireless Inspiration Laptop / XP - Dimension XPS / ME.....with the 8200 being the host computer. They are all connected to a TrueMobile 1184 Wireless Broadband Router that connects to a cable modem. I had everything working perfectly for about 2 weeks....then all of a sudden, they lost connection. I have tried just about everything I know to do with no luck. I talked to Dell tech support today until it just got silly. Forever waits, then passed along to 3 different people. Bottom line....they can't help me and since my router is more than 30 days old, I can't get an adjustment or replacement, but they would be glad to try and get my 1184 working with my computer. They also noted there was no known problems with the 1184. Na-na I say, from all that I have read in this forum, I believe there might be. They finally told me to call my ISP provider.....ATTBI.....well....struck out again. They cut me off really quick telling they don't support networking. So I'm left out here with no help and useless equipment as far as I'm concerned. I have read everthing I can find, have followed all the links and tried all the tweaks, tips and instructions to no avail. I have DHCP enabled, have checked all my settings and believe they are correct. I'm assuming if it worked once, why won't it work again? I'm not involving the other computers until I can connect to the internet through the router with the host computer. Once I can do that, I have no problem with networking the other computers to share the connnection. If I let the router choose the MAC address, I get pc to router to no internet. When I change the MAC address to my modem address, I get pc to router to internet. All systems look good, all lights on, etc. But......I can't open a webpage or anything else. It's like ATTBI is blocking the connection. Has anyone had this type of problem?


jhbjr
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February 14th, 2003 03:00
volcano11
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February 14th, 2003 03:00
If the cable modem ever gets turned off, you need to turn off the router and the computers. The modem should first be powered on and then allowed to synchronize with the ISP - this may sometimes take as long as five minutes. Next the router should be powered on and allowed to synchronize with the cable modem. This may take up to 1 minute. Finally, the computers should be powered on. Remember that the cable modem gets its IP address from the ISP, the router has to see this IP address, and then the router has to assign IP addresses to the computers. I don't know if this the problem you are both having, but it is always a good idea to keep this in mind whenever you are troubleshooting problems like this.
Steve
jhbjr
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February 14th, 2003 04:00
cayce1
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February 14th, 2003 05:00
shrice51
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February 14th, 2003 11:00
This may help..see my last post
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_network&message.id=18703&page=6
Steve-
mhelms23
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February 14th, 2003 16:00
Also try this website......
http://www.broadbandreports.com
cayce1
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February 14th, 2003 20:00
cayce1
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February 14th, 2003 20:00
jhbjr
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February 14th, 2003 23:00
DPoole
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February 15th, 2003 01:00
The same problem appeared here (attbi/Comcast Northwest Chicago) overnight after having worked perfectly since Christmas with the default dynamic DHCP settings. I'm unaware of the cable modem or the 1184 having been powered off as the cause. The 1184 configuration status page showed no Internet connection. The Renew button timed out and displayed a new status with still no IP address.
attbi does not support home networking, so I connected the Ethernet port on my Inspiron directly to the cable modem to prove that out before calling their T/S. Sure enough it worked perfectly after running ipconfig /renew to obtain a configuration for that connection. No help there.
This morning, Dell T/S coached me through writing down that configuration obtained from ipconfig /all and setting the 1184 to the same fixed IP, subnet mask, gateway, DNS, and MAC addresses. With the 1184's uplink port connected to the modem, it worked immediately and has been working since this morning. I also tried it with the 1184's WAN port MAC address instead of the Inspiron's and it also obtained a lease and worked.
I am concerned that this is a poor solution as the attbi lease expires in 4 days and I presume that with fixed settings, the 1184 will not renew or extend. This may cause a problem if and when the cable system reprovisions the modem. Anybody know how frequently IP addresses are reassigned or reused?
It will be a real hassle reconfiguring the 1184 every four days to keep it working and that will be a big disappointment with the 1184. This deserves a better response from Dell, since if the Inspiron can obtain a lease, but the 1184 cannot with the same (Inspiron's) MAC address, it seems to me there must be a fault in the 1184's DHCP client implementation that was exposed by some configuration change within attbi/Comcast.
jhbjr
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February 15th, 2003 05:00
jhbjr
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February 15th, 2003 05:00
Bingo...Now I know I am not going nuts. While I hate to see this happening to anyone else, it is good to have confirmation that there is something up with the Comcast takeover of ATTBI infrastructure and whatever they are doing is beyond the ability of the 1184 DHCP server to handle it. You nailed the symptoms exactly. I fear we are the first of an epidemic of these failures. I am betting it will happen to other ATTBI users when they renew their IP address lease.
This is going to be one for Dell to own. I am afraid it is the type of bug that will get very little attention either from Comcast or Dell. Hey Dell...prove me wrong.
Well I am off to try that static configuration but as you say it is a hopeless cludge.
cayce1
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February 15th, 2003 13:00
j805771
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February 15th, 2003 15:00
Same thing happened to me as well. My connection works fine when plugged into my system, but nothing from my 1184.
Anybody at Dell got an answer?
j805771
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February 15th, 2003 15:00