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February 23rd, 2008 22:00

Trying to connect to a N Router

So here's what's going on:

 

I have a Linksys G router that i normally use and my wife and I can surf the net without any problems. It works great. I got my hands on a Linksys WRT300N router (wireless N) and wanted to hook it up. Now even though we don't have wireless N cards in our notebooks, we all know that N is backwards compatible to G.

 

I have a cable modem. So if i hook the N router directly to the modem, I get an IP of 0.0.0.0. Nothing. I can however access the router's page wirelessly. So what i did was i piggybacked the N router to the G like this:

 

Cable modem to G router, then took an ethernet cable and hooked it up to port 1 on G router and the other end to Internet port on N router. I logged into the N routers page to change ssid and put encryption on it. Then i disconnected from the G router profile and connected to the N router profile. I'm online everything works great. I get an IP

 

I kept the G router's default gateway to linksys' default ip. I changed the N router's ip to 192.168.64.1. So when i connected to the N router and did ipconfig, it gives me the N routers ip.

 

So my question is why can't i connect to the N router when it's connected directly to the cable modem?

 

Here's what i've done thus far, i've updated firmware, made sure it's set to mixed mode, i even tried G only mode. I've uninstalled/reinstalled wireless card driver. I've tried hard wired in safe mode w/ networking.

 

So if anyone can help me figure out why i can't get an IP with just the N router connected to the modem i would be most appreciative.

 

Thanks

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February 23rd, 2008 22:00

even though your router is wirless n, the n stanard will not work unless you have some type of n-standard adatper in your computer....its true that the wireless n router will run on your rigs, but its using the a,,b or g stanard. to get the n- standard to work,, you will have to install a n-stanard adapter and installl it..

Message Edited by ronss on 02-23-2008 06:52 PM

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February 24th, 2008 00:00

Thanks for the reply but i think you are misunderstanding what i'm trying to do. I know i can't get the full capabilities of N Standard without an N wireless card installed. i just want to connect to the internet. I thought N is backward capable with G and B. Therefore i should be able to connect.

 

Thanks for the reply

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February 24th, 2008 06:00

i quess i am not sure what you are doing..if you bought a n router,, you should be able to use that, and forget about the g-router...why are you using it??? attach your n router to the calbe modem,and either you can run wired to computer, or wireless if you have a card installed in the computer or a wireless chipset on motherboard... now this piggy back thing, i never read about it...,,maybe i am missing something,.

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February 24th, 2008 08:00

OrdinaryMAN wrote:
So my question is why can't i connect to the N router when it's connected directly to the cable modem?
Did you reset your "Cable Modem" before connecting with your "Linksys WRT300N Router"? You need to reset the "Cable Modem" each time you connect a "different" hardware (i.e. - router, computer) to it.
With all the RJ-45 Ethernet plugs already hooked-up:
1. Unplug the AC power to the "Cable Modem" and wait around 3-5 minutes. Then plug-in the AC power and wait for the modem's LEDs to sync-up.
2. Then plug-in the AC power for the "Linksys WRT300N Router" and wait until the router's LEDs sync-up.
3. Then boot-up your computer. You "should" now have "wired" access to the Internet... (then setup your wireless)

"Setting-Up a Linksys Router with Cable Internet Service" ("click here")

Aloha,
Rod
Message Edited by Akule50 on 02-24-2008 12:27 AM

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February 24th, 2008 08:00

Go into the setup for the router and see if it is set to accept mixed modes.  If may be set to only accept N cards.

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February 24th, 2008 13:00

access the n routers clone mac address page while the router is hardwired to the main computer ..click clone mac address which will pull the mac address of the computer into the router...then the cable modem will think that it is directly connected to the computer that it was attached to when the system was activated..

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February 27th, 2008 05:00

I think a little clarification for OrdinaryMAN needs to happen.
NO, N standard is not backwards compatible. N is a seperate standard. You have to have a N standard router and a N standard PC card or nic card to communicate over N.
Some N routers also have G and B built into them, so they can communicate with G standard or B standard network cards. However even G and B are seperate standards.

So, if your router is set to N only.. then your G network card won't be able to communicate with the router.

You will have to put your router into mixed mode. Usually you can choose for N, N+G or N+G+B.
On the first version of the N class mixed mode routers to come out, they were notoriusly unstable for mixed mode operations. The later versions (say in the last year about) are pretty stable. However, if you have it in mixed mode and it is still unstable. You might look at your router support site and see if there is a firmware update. Many times this can make it more stable.

You also might think about getting an N standard pc card for your laptop. It's way way faster than G.


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February 27th, 2008 06:00

Go into the setup for the router and see if it is set to accept mixed modes.  If may be set to only accept N cards.

 

 

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