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May 27th, 2024 12:45

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Apologirs if I already posted this but iy doesn't seem to have gone. I want to update the SSD in this machine. I currently have a Western Digital short NVME  (2230 if I'm right ?)  It is 128 GB and is labeled a Gen3x2. My question is what spec drive do I need to upgrade to 500gb I tried a Crucial T500 which they quoted as being compatible with my machine But I could not clone the WD drive onto the crucial T500 despite hours on their help system. I ended up sending it but have since realised that it was a gen 4 and am wondering if that was why It was causing problems? I don't know enough about SSD technology so would be grateful for help as to what I need to purchase to be sure it's going to work on my 3070

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May 27th, 2024 13:08

It's unlikely there was a hardware issue with the Crucial T500 drive, which is fully compatible with the system.

More likely it was the cloning process that either failed, or wasn't done correctly.  Cloning is never a sure thing -- you can use whatever NVMe drive you want, but plan on needing to do a full reinstall.  If you are cloning, did you make sure to:

Turn off secure boot and bitlocker before starting,

Have ONLY the new drive mounted in the system after cloning (you must remove the original drive from the system before first boot)?

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May 27th, 2024 13:16

The M.2 slot on your machine should work with both SATA and MVNe solid state drive.  It does not matter if you use a newer generation, it should be backward compatible and performing at the speed the slot is rate for.  The issue at hand is drive cloning.  You may want to try other software as suggested from previous posts. 

 Previously asked questions were left unsolved.  If you received help and proper answers were given, mark the helpful post to close the threads.  If they were unsolved, continue to post in your opened thread instead.

How to upgrade SSD post https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/optiplex-desktops/optiplex-3070-upgrade-questions/6637963c33543c7c811e8679

How to copy, clone post  https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/optiplex-desktops/upgrade-ssd-optiplex-3070sff/664c5c4698d3781b92ebfbab

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May 27th, 2024 18:21

@ejn63​  Thankyou for the reply I had spent hours chatting to Crucials  help[ system and trying all sorts of suggestions out but nothing came of it I tried doing a back up to a usb drive and restore to the new drive installed which would get as far as 14% and fail. I am now going todo a new install onto the new drive when I get it which should solve any problems with cloning. I would also like to install a separate storage drive in the hard drive area probably another ssd 2.5 inch . Can you tell me if the connections are obvious on these  as I have 4 loose cables in this area. 1 orange 1blue 1 black connectore with 5 wires and a 2 wire black connector.  I probably can't get the black ones wrong but the blue and orange look identical connections. Any help you can give will be a great help

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May 27th, 2024 18:23

@Chino de Oro​ Apologies I couldn't find my own post I have marked them now

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May 27th, 2024 20:59

Review this video for instructions on how to remove the smaller NVMe SSD and installing the larger NVMe SSD, including moving the standoff screws to correct position and re-using the thermal pad.

For a clean Windows 11 installation, review this tutorial video.

 

For cloning, it will require the use of an external enclosure for M.2 SSD for direct cloning.  You can download Macrium Reflect free 64-bit version and installing it to your original boot drive.  Then you performing simple cloning by drag and drop all partitions from old drive to new drive.  Using the function to move right to move the partitions from the right of C drive, then select to fill space and C drive will be expanded to fill the gap of all free space.  Otherwise, use a USB drive for image backup, then restore it to the new SSD after upgrade.  To learn more about the cloning software, use tutorial self help to learn all features available.

For additional 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD, make sure that the machine already has the 2.5" drive bracket.  For SATA cable, use the blue cable first.

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May 28th, 2024 01:45

If you add a 2.5" SSD, have it plugged into a blue or black SATA port.  White SATA port is for the DVD drive.

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May 28th, 2024 09:25

@Chino de Oro​ Thanks I will let you know how it goes

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May 28th, 2024 11:35

It's far-fetched there was an equipment issue with the Urgent T500 drive, which is completely viable with the framework.

Almost certain it was the cloning system that either fizzled, or wasn't done accurately. Cloning is never a slam dunk - - you can utilize anything that NVMe drive you need, however anticipate expecting to do a full reinstall. On the off chance that you are cloning, did you make a point to:

Switch off secure boot and bitlocker prior to beginning,

Have Just the new drive mounted in the framework subsequent to cloning (you should eliminate the first drive from the framework before first boot)?

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May 31st, 2024 15:40

@Chino de Oro​ Hello I am awaitinh a new NVMe 500gb drive and will up the ram to 16gb. I also want to install 1 or 2 ssd 2.5 inch drives in the HD mount The blue plastic clip in caddy at the moment is obviousley deigned for a 3.5 inch drive. I know I can get a caddy to take 2x 2.5 inch drives But on investigating I found 2 connectors on the board marked SATA 0 and SATA 2 (sata 1 is the M.2 slot with the current NVMe drive in it)These have 1 cable connected to each and I assume are sata data cables and another cable that connects to the main board is near a label marked sata pwr.It appears to fit the larger connector on the 2,5 sdd that I have so I guess it's power. It also has a two wire connector that comes from the same plug. My problem is I appear to have 2 data cables but only 1 power connector So how do I get power to A second sata drive if I want to put 2 in the caddy? I amveery grateful for the help I have received so far and with any luck will get thisup and running with your kind help

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May 31st, 2024 16:07

@kamigee​  HI The original western Digital is a 128gb drive and on it was Windows 11 and I downloaded the Acronis cloning software from Crucial. There was an initial problem with it and the Crucial help desk sent me a patch to get it to work. The T500 was installed in a USB3 adapter ( Nothing was installed in the empty sata drive bays and there is only 1 socket for an NVME drive) I followed the instructions from the Crucial help desk for cloning and could not get it to work I  chatted to most of the staff on the help desk over several days but got nowhere so have sent it back for a refund. I am sure that one of the tings I had from the helpdesk was turning off secure boot. I will purchase closer to home from now on as it doesn't cost me over £12 to send it back to eastern Europe in the event of a problem

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