stop 7b error means that the installation can't see the hdd's. So can't install, this is a driver issue. You need to present the driver at the start of he install by pressing F6 when prompted by the install to add additional drivers.
With 2003 this is done by floppy disk but your r210 may not have one fitted so the next other method is to integrate the drivers into the build cd using a tool like nlite
Now I had opened Openmanage 6.5 and in part "Configure server OS Installation" - first step is set date and time. Into second step is "Select operating system", but in there dont have selected item Windows server 2003. It is possible to istall this OS for poweredge R210 II ?
R210ii is released a year or so back, and that may be the reason why this relatively old OS win2003 is not listed in SBUU support. I even went one step more to check out if OpenManage 6.4 supports Win2003, but unfortunately it doesnt have R210ii released itself during that time. There is a OS support matrix that is available in the Open Manage DVD which might also give a better understanding on OS Vs Server support.
I would suggest to proceed and install with Win2008 but if it is mandatory to stick with Win2003, you may not be able to utilize SBUU support and may have to manually provide the needed drivers for the installation to complete.
Not only does SBUU not support installing 2003 on an R210 II, but Dell does not support 2003 on an R210 II AT ALL. This doesn't mean that it won't work, but it means that making it work is completely up to you, and that you will likely need to obtain drivers from the individual device manufacturers.
If you want to try this, it is important that we know WHICH RAID controller (the actual name/model) that you are using? Choose from the following:
PERC S100 (no card - drives connected to motherboard, integrated/embedded RAID turned ON in the BIOS F2) PERC S300 (actual add-in card) PERC H200 (actual add-in card) NO RAID (drives connected to motherboard, integrated/embedded RAID turned OFF in the BIOS F2)
All the 'PERC' options you access the RAID config through CTRL-R during POST. If no PERC, you will not have a CTRL-R option.
Another option for 2003 on this machine is to install a supported OS, then run 2003 in a "virtual machine" ... 2008's Hyper-V or another hypervisor, like VMWare (although the Sxxx controllers will NOT work with VMWare).
STOP 0x0000007B means it cannot find storage Drivers AKA DISK not found. If there is not a way to install ATA mode instead of AHCI then XP/2003 Server will not work. 2003 server uses XP drivers. 2008 server uses VISTA/WIN7 Drivers.
Dell, not for nothing but you release a server 2 years ago which does not support Windows 2003?????. I have a supermicro server at a client downgraded as a dedicated server for TS, which will run Windows 2000 through 2008 which is 12 years old ( bios is about 8 years old).; it is not that diffiicult to make a machine only 2 year old support Windows 2003.
Lately I purchased a Vostro 470, I sent it back as it will not run Win 7 32bit, (I not interested in having to run in XP mode). Is it so much work to have it support a Win 7 32 bit installation, considering many business still have some really old programs on there systems?
This does not make economical sense. If a customer hits a couple of hurdles produced by your poor business decisons they will just start thinking about another vendor. Who makes these business decisions? your saving a few bucks and risking future quanity sales.
While I'am at it.... the web site is one of the most aggrevating experiences I go through on a regular basis. 4-5 years ago it was relatively easy to configure a wks or server; why should I need to spend a couple hours on google to understand server component specs( especially all the different raid controllers, half of which are unnecessay, and should not be called raid controllers). In the last 5 years the web site has become progressively more difficult to configure a machine, giving less options, and confusing options with less needed information; getting to be like buying a car; without an extended google search your buying a machines relying on fluff. Dell, you should really dump some of the low end "raid" controllers, their performance/restrictions are so bad they are only good for hurting future sales.
lol ... I had to chuckle at your last paragraph, because I COMPLETELY agree! From dell.com to support.dell.com ... horribly over-complicated. I've never understood why they sell low-end RAID solutions, and it is downright insulting to call the S-series and H200 controllers PERC's. You have always been able to distinguish a good controller from a bad by realizing that the PERC's were the good ones.
As for the rest, I never buy Vostro's - too expensive, too limited - but it is surprising that there isn't a way - even if unsupported - to get 32-bit installed on it. Most, if not all, of the Optiplex even support XP still, while still having (some of them) some decent tech - these are all I buy for business workstations.
I am not sad to see support for 2003 go away, even though I feel your pain with some of the old software that businesses cling to. I partly blame the small software vendors for lack of vision and/or understanding in developing their products with such a narrow focus. Maybe that's their business plan though :)
"it is downright insulting to call the S-series and H200 controllers PERC's."
Downright insulting? Yes and downright EMBARRASING for Dell. I purchased (1 )H200, never again ( due to unusually poor homework); if it was not for the disk cache, it would have been returned. Without the disk cache enabled, I felt like I was back in the 1996 raid performance era....brought back long lost , excuse me buried ,memories.
Yes, it used to be easy to just pick anything with Perc in front of the designation, and get descent performance. After reading about all the super angry/disappointed posts concerning the lower Percs, you would think Dell would drop them into an obyss/dumpster or sell them only to al qaeda ( would definite slow terrorst attack planning down). Flash, you know the Engineers/ Top Tier support personel in the know at Dell rolled their eyes when the descion to use these wanabe controllers was made.
" it is surprising that there isn't a way - even if unsupported - to get 32-bit installed on it"
There may be a way, but as I tried the 32 bit install it stated It toward the end of the install it could not be installed on the particular machine ( directly from the Dell OS disk, all partitions deleted). Yes, I could use the XP mode to run the old Access DB and a couple other programs but but I have had enough aggrevation at this particular site.
"I am not sad to see support for 2003 go away" All I expect is the hardware to run it, I am not calling Dell for anything support. It too early for 2003 to be phased out in this respect, many small even large businesses still have it on some servers, very little is needed in the bios to run it. Agree, 2008 crushes 2003, it is so much better, but still usable unlike Win 2000. This appears to be a ploy like the mandated "certified drive" firmware, but just like that ill-fated effort, Dell is only going to hurt sales. Aggrevating customers, actually the techs who purchase, is not a good thing.
"I partly blame the small software vendors for lack of vision "
The programs I am referring to were programmed in the Neolithic time period; I don't think there was any vision then, as the programmer was multitasking...programming. while rubbing sticks together inventing fire.
As to the Vostro 470, Win 7 32 bit is not that old... if this becomes a habit with Dell, the Windows 8 release machines will not run Win 7 64 bit.
You can install Windows 2003 on a PowerEdge R210 II, I've been running to for nearly 2 years now! You need to change the HDD interface settings in the BIOS from AHCI to SATA, then the Windows 2003 Installer will recognize the drive(s).
tommo666
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stop 7b error means that the installation can't see the hdd's. So can't install, this is a driver issue. You need to present the driver at the start of he install by pressing F6 when prompted by the install to add additional drivers.
With 2003 this is done by floppy disk but your r210 may not have one fitted so the next other method is to integrate the drivers into the build cd using a tool like nlite
DELL-Vivek S
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May 7th, 2012 04:00
Hi
Could you be more specific on the scenario by giving us the below details:
1. Was Open Manage (CDU / OM DVD) Dvd ISO image utilized to install Windows server 2003? If so could you let us know the version details of it.
2. Let us know the storage controller in Power edge 210ii. Is it a software RAID (internal controller) ?
Ideally, for installation of an operating system on a DELL server, it is suggested to utilize the support of Open Manage (CDU / OM DVD) shipped along
with the server.
Let us know
Thanks
Vivek
petremoon
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May 11th, 2012 02:00
Hi Vivek,
I work and diagnose acrros Dell Unified Server configurator (). I dont now when it is Open manage part.
Acrross USC checked Raid configurator and there is not a driver (No RAID controllers found).
I have HDD SATA 7.2K 250GB. I have a problem to find a driver for this HDD for OS windows server 2003. Do you now where i find this driver ?
NOw I starting to install Open manage from shipped DVD.
Thank you :o)
DELL-Vivek S
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May 11th, 2012 02:00
Hi Petremoon,
For installation of Win2003 you need to utilize OpenMange 6.5.1 or 6.5 release ISOs
Give a shot with the above released OpenManage DVD support and you should ideally not face any driver issues of installing Win2003. Good Luck :)
Thanks
Vivek
petremoon
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May 11th, 2012 05:00
Hi,
Now I had opened Openmanage 6.5 and in part "Configure server OS Installation" - first step is set date and time. Into second step is "Select operating system", but in there dont have selected item Windows server 2003. It is possible to istall this OS for poweredge R210 II ?
DELL-Vivek S
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Hi
R210ii is released a year or so back, and that may be the reason why this relatively old OS win2003 is not listed in SBUU support. I even went one step more to check out if OpenManage 6.4 supports Win2003, but unfortunately it doesnt have R210ii released itself during that time. There is a OS support matrix that is available in the Open Manage DVD which might also give a better understanding on OS Vs Server support.
I would suggest to proceed and install with Win2008 but if it is mandatory to stick with Win2003, you may not be able to utilize SBUU support and may have to manually provide the needed drivers for the installation to complete.
Thanks
Vivek
theflash1932
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May 11th, 2012 09:00
I wondered but didn't bother looking ... thanks Rey!
theflash1932
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Not only does SBUU not support installing 2003 on an R210 II, but Dell does not support 2003 on an R210 II AT ALL. This doesn't mean that it won't work, but it means that making it work is completely up to you, and that you will likely need to obtain drivers from the individual device manufacturers.
http://advisors.dell.com/AgileWeb/iDrivematrixView.aspx
If you want to try this, it is important that we know WHICH RAID controller (the actual name/model) that you are using? Choose from the following:
PERC S100 (no card - drives connected to motherboard, integrated/embedded RAID turned ON in the BIOS F2)
PERC S300 (actual add-in card)
PERC H200 (actual add-in card)
NO RAID (drives connected to motherboard, integrated/embedded RAID turned OFF in the BIOS F2)
All the 'PERC' options you access the RAID config through CTRL-R during POST. If no PERC, you will not have a CTRL-R option.
Another option for 2003 on this machine is to install a supported OS, then run 2003 in a "virtual machine" ... 2008's Hyper-V or another hypervisor, like VMWare (although the Sxxx controllers will NOT work with VMWare).
DELL-Rey G
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May 11th, 2012 09:00
just FYI, 2003 is not suported on SBUU/SMTD 7.0 at all for any system...
petremoon
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May 15th, 2012 06:00
Hi Guys,
Thanks for all. It is not possiblle to instal WServer 2003 in this Poweredge R210 II.
I instal W servewr 2008 and I need to find solution for other software, because it is not supported by Wserver 2008.
Have a nice day :o)
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STOP 0x0000007B means it cannot find storage Drivers AKA DISK not found. If there is not a way to install ATA mode instead of AHCI then XP/2003 Server will not work. 2003 server uses XP drivers. 2008 server uses VISTA/WIN7 Drivers.
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Dell, not for nothing but you release a server 2 years ago which does not support Windows 2003?????. I have a supermicro server at a client downgraded as a dedicated server for TS, which will run Windows 2000 through 2008 which is 12 years old ( bios is about 8 years old).; it is not that diffiicult to make a machine only 2 year old support Windows 2003.
Lately I purchased a Vostro 470, I sent it back as it will not run Win 7 32bit, (I not interested in having to run in XP mode). Is it so much work to have it support a Win 7 32 bit installation, considering many business still have some really old programs on there systems?
This does not make economical sense. If a customer hits a couple of hurdles produced by your poor business decisons they will just start thinking about another vendor. Who makes these business decisions? your saving a few bucks and risking future quanity sales.
While I'am at it.... the web site is one of the most aggrevating experiences I go through on a regular basis. 4-5 years ago it was relatively easy to configure a wks or server; why should I need to spend a couple hours on google to understand server component specs( especially all the different raid controllers, half of which are unnecessay, and should not be called raid controllers). In the last 5 years the web site has become progressively more difficult to configure a machine, giving less options, and confusing options with less needed information; getting to be like buying a car; without an extended google search your buying a machines relying on fluff. Dell, you should really dump some of the low end "raid" controllers, their performance/restrictions are so bad they are only good for hurting future sales.
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lol ... I had to chuckle at your last paragraph, because I COMPLETELY agree! From dell.com to support.dell.com ... horribly over-complicated. I've never understood why they sell low-end RAID solutions, and it is downright insulting to call the S-series and H200 controllers PERC's. You have always been able to distinguish a good controller from a bad by realizing that the PERC's were the good ones.
As for the rest, I never buy Vostro's - too expensive, too limited - but it is surprising that there isn't a way - even if unsupported - to get 32-bit installed on it. Most, if not all, of the Optiplex even support XP still, while still having (some of them) some decent tech - these are all I buy for business workstations.
I am not sad to see support for 2003 go away, even though I feel your pain with some of the old software that businesses cling to. I partly blame the small software vendors for lack of vision and/or understanding in developing their products with such a narrow focus. Maybe that's their business plan though :)
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"it is downright insulting to call the S-series and H200 controllers PERC's."
Downright insulting? Yes and downright EMBARRASING for Dell. I purchased (1 )H200, never again ( due to unusually poor homework); if it was not for the disk cache, it would have been returned. Without the disk cache enabled, I felt like I was back in the 1996 raid performance era....brought back long lost , excuse me buried ,memories.
Yes, it used to be easy to just pick anything with Perc in front of the designation, and get descent performance. After reading about all the super angry/disappointed posts concerning the lower Percs, you would think Dell would drop them into an obyss/dumpster or sell them only to al qaeda ( would definite slow terrorst attack planning down). Flash, you know the Engineers/ Top Tier support personel in the know at Dell rolled their eyes when the descion to use these wanabe controllers was made.
" it is surprising that there isn't a way - even if unsupported - to get 32-bit installed on it"
There may be a way, but as I tried the 32 bit install it stated It toward the end of the install it could not be installed on the particular machine ( directly from the Dell OS disk, all partitions deleted). Yes, I could use the XP mode to run the old Access DB and a couple other programs but but I have had enough aggrevation at this particular site.
"I am not sad to see support for 2003 go away" All I expect is the hardware to run it, I am not calling Dell for anything support. It too early for 2003 to be phased out in this respect, many small even large businesses still have it on some servers, very little is needed in the bios to run it. Agree, 2008 crushes 2003, it is so much better, but still usable unlike Win 2000. This appears to be a ploy like the mandated "certified drive" firmware, but just like that ill-fated effort, Dell is only going to hurt sales. Aggrevating customers, actually the techs who purchase, is not a good thing.
"I partly blame the small software vendors for lack of vision "
The programs I am referring to were programmed in the Neolithic time period; I don't think there was any vision then, as the programmer was multitasking...programming. while rubbing sticks together inventing fire.
As to the Vostro 470, Win 7 32 bit is not that old... if this becomes a habit with Dell, the Windows 8 release machines will not run Win 7 64 bit.
belrus65
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You can install Windows 2003 on a PowerEdge R210 II, I've been running to for nearly 2 years now! You need to change the HDD interface settings in the BIOS from AHCI to SATA, then the Windows 2003 Installer will recognize the drive(s).