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Journal Volume Sizes

Without knowing the change rate of your hosts, is there a way to determine the size of the journal volumes?
  • JamesBEMC

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    Posted February 23rd, 2009 06:00

    Realistically no...

    You could take a stab at it, but you could end up over-allocating (longer protect than needed ie storage cost) or under-allocating (not meeting SLAs)...

    Suggest to profile the change rate of your applications with performance data (KB/Wr) over a an expected lifecycle, prehaps a week or so (covers weekend maintenance, etc).

    James.
  • JamesBEMC

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    Posted February 23rd, 2009 08:00

    Depends...
    More smaller LUNs are good as long as they dont cause spindle contention on the back end.

    Some people use smaller LUNs so they can get more performance from the back end.....depends on requirements...
  • AranH1

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    Posted February 23rd, 2009 08:00

    You could also just allocate small LUNs and then monitor the consistency groups and the journal to see what time period the bookmarks span before being overwritten. If the time is too short, just add more Journal volumes. That has worked for me.
  • AranH1

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    Posted February 23rd, 2009 08:00

    Yep, as James stated we achieve good performance for our Journal volumes by spreading out on the backend the disks that make up each volume. We are replicating OLTP databases with very high transactional rates so we need the performance edge everywhere we can find it.
  • pittperson

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    Posted February 23rd, 2009 08:00

    You could also just allocate small LUNs and then
    monitor the consistency groups and the journal to see
    what time period the bookmarks span before being
    overwritten. If the time is too short, just add more
    Journal volumes. That has worked for me.


    Interesting idea. Is there a negative to having multiple small journal volumes for one consistency group, as opposed to 1 correctly sized journal volume?

    Chris
  • AranH1

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    Posted February 23rd, 2009 08:00

    Man, that would have been a nice tool to have when we deployed RP a couple of years ago :D We had to just monitor backups and log files and used trial and error for Journal volume sizes.
  • RickBrunner1

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    Posted February 23rd, 2009 08:00

    Agree with James, the best avenue is to use empirical data to size, absent that you would need to assume % of change rate for the protection window period needed and size journal based on the assumption.

    EMC has developed tools to size journals for both existing apps as well as net new apps where you may not have the historical data. Contact your local EMC Technical Consultant for assistance and they can help you address this.