Journaling on Domino Server

To my little understanding of Domino, you would need to move them to a specific domino server and journal those mail files.

I am more familiar with Exchange myself though.

Perhaps, that is the best way but you need a new hardware etc. for this.

I wonder if we have something similar to what we had in Exchange.

I had a quick chat to a domino admin. She wouldn't know of any similar feature as for Exchange. Domino has a totally different architecture and doesn't differentiate between "storage groups". Mails sent out/coming in are passing two other database files (internal/smtp). So there is not much to do...

What I am excited about is the new feature in Exchange 2007:
"Journaling is flexible in Exchange Server 2007. Journaling can be triggered per database, per distribution list, or per user. All messages can be journaled, or just those sent internally or externally."
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/features/default.mspx

FYI

Do you any link to this "Configuration Document" in Domino. I'll read on and see if I can make use of it effectively?

I wanted to check the load option since my customer got this implemented by some other partner earlier and claims that Domino server got into problems after journalling was enabled. They tried restarting the Domino server and it got into problems for which IBM blamed the journaling executables. I am just trying to figure out how I can put in minimum load on Domino & least possible configuration on Domino server so that we have less chances of getting into problems?

Interesting. This is now the difference between Support and Consulting! I would always try to find a solution for a request.

Sorry for pointing this out (not being EMC), but Support does know their product very well, but sometimes lacks the in depth knowledge of adjacent systems (depending on whom you talk about). But I think this is normal.

I have chatted to the domino admin and she came up with the answer I posted earlier. - The load it puts on the server? Sorry, no experience with this.

Good luck, Jochen.

EMC Support has also mentioned the same today.

I thought if we can configure this, there would be less load of journalling on the mail server as it would have to journal lesser no. of mailboxes. I need to journal 60 out of 1000 mailboxes and recommending a new Lotus server for 60 mailboxes may not be feasible.

Do you have any idea of what kind of additional load does journalling put on a mail server?

But no, I was very wrong!!!

A journaling mail file in Domino can be configured per domino server (a "Configuration document"). While enabling a journaling mailbox for a server, you can configure a new Server Mail Rule based on sender, subject, body, importance, delivery priority, To, CC, BCC, To or CC,body or subject, internet domain, size, all documents, any attachment name, number of attachments, from, recipient count, any recipient, blacklist tag, whitelist tag.

A rule can have multiple conditions(!) that "contains"/"doesn't contain"/"is" or "is not" and you can assign various actions, e.g. "journal this message".

So in my opinion, one can be much more specific and granular than one can be with Exchange 2003/2007.

Hope this helps - it did for me (didn't know this before myself)!

Regards,
Jochen.

In the organisations' address book (names.nsf) or also Domino Directory, you select Configuration (left menue) > Servers > Configurations > and choose a server document there (not every company publishes the info; for making the changes you obviously need the permissions).

You'll active journaling on the server document unter Router/SMTP (tab) > Avanced (tab) > Basics

On the same level as Basics, choose the > Restrictions and Controls (tab) > Rules (tab) > this would be the place where to add the new rule.

Hope this helps, Jochen.

Thanks. I will test this and look for you if I need more help.

Sorry, just going back to the EX rules, A colleciton rule can be done only for addresses in To & From Fields...that means we will not journal mails which come to you with your address in cc OR bcc.

That sucks! I doubt that the mentioning of To: would include the CC:/BCC: fields. The product doesn't state anything in this direction.

If you'd have some time, I could test this to make sure (but only on Thursday, as I am onsite with customers the next two days). Just let me know!

But in case you'd be running an EmailXtract archiving task on your required mailboxes regularly, those messages with CC/BCC would be included that way.

I had a discussion with a couple of EMC people and they agree that it would archive only based on To & From fileds.

If you get a chance, tets and let me know.