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July 16th, 2013 13:00

VMAX to DMX SRDF/A goes invalid

I am seeing a new issue in my environment when I try to setup replication between VMAX and DMX.

All existing replication is working fine between the frames, but when I create new RDF group and new pairs , and establish them ..they are immediately going into invalid state.

Support told me to fully allocate thin device on source side and then try sync.

Does anyone faced similar issues ?? Is there any fix for this problem.


       Source (R1) View                 Target (R2) View     MODES
--------------------------------    ------------------------ ----- ------------
             ST                  LI      ST
Standard      A                   N       A
Logical       T  R1 Inv   R2 Inv  K       T  R1 Inv   R2 Inv       RDF Pair
Device  Dev   E  Tracks   Tracks  S Dev   E  Tracks   Tracks MDAE  STATE
-------------------------------- -- ------------------------ ----- ------------

DEV001  2BC2 RW       0  2015344 NR 555C WD       0        0 C.D.  Invalid
DEV002  2BDA RW       0  5485591 NR 5574 WD       0        0 C.D.  Invalid

DEV003  3D34 RW       0  3318588 NR 558C WD       0        0 C.D.  Invalid

22 Posts

July 18th, 2013 06:00

Below is the response from L2 support

Referred primus :emc312873

This is due to an Enginuity issue. There is a generic problem on THIN to 73 THICK NULL group copy. If THIN is unallocated and R2 is IVTOC, the code processes up to the end of the device.
A temporary workaround is to fully allocate the R1 device, including special cylinders. OPT 412611 has been opened for this issue and a permanent fix is in progress.
Then you can do full establish.

91 Posts

July 16th, 2013 23:00

Please let us know the set of command you are performing.

Also i would appreciate if you would be able to provide me with the knowledgebase article(if any) provided by the support.

- Support told me to fully allocate thin device on source side and then try sync.-

* Did you try this, and did this work ??

54 Posts

July 16th, 2013 23:00

3 Questions from me:

1) What is the command you are running for establishing pairs ?

2) Whichcode level you are at for both VMAX and DMX ?

3) What is the symcli version ?

53 Posts

July 17th, 2013 06:00

Hello,

Can you try with the invalidate R2 switch. Also SE 7.4 is minimum needed to manage 5876 code.
Thanks!

Roshan Raju.

22 Posts

July 17th, 2013 06:00

1) symrdf -g < > establish -full

2) Source VMAX - 5876.163.105

    Target DMX -> 5773.184

3) SYMCLI Version -> 7.3.2

and I havnt tried fully allocating the thin device as i dont want to do it .We do all thin provisioning.

If I do it for one lun , I need to use the same for every lun and it jeopardizes our ability to do thin provisioning.


22 Posts

July 17th, 2013 06:00

When the pair was initial setup, we used invalidate r2 option.

V7.4 - do you think SE version might be causing an issue here ??

91 Posts

July 17th, 2013 06:00

We need to ensure we have SE 7.4 at minimum to support enguinity 5876.

Could you please upgrade SE and then let us know the result.

53 Posts

July 17th, 2013 07:00

When running in un-supported or non-compatible versions, we can never predict how issues pan out. If it were me, i would move to 7.4 and check. Its better that way.

22 Posts

July 17th, 2013 08:00

Installed SE7.6 on my test machine and established the pair ,but the result is still the same..

Goes into sync in progress and immediately going into Invalid state.


       Source (R1) View                 Target (R2) View     MODES
--------------------------------    ------------------------ ----- ------------
             ST                  LI      ST
Standard      A                   N       A
Logical       T  R1 Inv   R2 Inv  K       T  R1 Inv   R2 Inv       RDF Pair
Device  Dev   E  Tracks   Tracks  S Dev   E  Tracks   Tracks MDAE  STATE
-------------------------------- -- ------------------------ ----- ------------

N/A     2BC2 RW       0  2111381 RW 555C WD       0        0 C.D.  SyncInProg
N/A     2BDA RW       0  5530861 RW 5574 WD       0        0 C.D.  SyncInProg

Total          -------- --------           -------- --------
  Track(s)            0  7642242                  0        0
  MB(s)               0   477640                  0        0


       Source (R1) View                 Target (R2) View     MODES
--------------------------------    ------------------------ ----- ------------
             ST                  LI      ST
Standard      A                   N       A
Logical       T  R1 Inv   R2 Inv  K       T  R1 Inv   R2 Inv       RDF Pair
Device  Dev   E  Tracks   Tracks  S Dev   E  Tracks   Tracks MDAE  STATE
-------------------------------- -- ------------------------ ----- ------------

N/A     2BC2 RW       0  2100383 RW 555C WD       0        0 C.D.  Invalid
N/A     2BDA RW       0  5529726 RW 5574 WD       0        0 C.D.  SyncInProg

Total          -------- --------           -------- --------
  Track(s)            0  7630109                  0        0
  MB(s)               0   476882                  0        0


       Source (R1) View                 Target (R2) View     MODES
--------------------------------    ------------------------ ----- ------------
             ST                  LI      ST
Standard      A                   N       A
Logical       T  R1 Inv   R2 Inv  K       T  R1 Inv   R2 Inv       RDF Pair
Device  Dev   E  Tracks   Tracks  S Dev   E  Tracks   Tracks MDAE  STATE
-------------------------------- -- ------------------------ ----- ------------

N/A     2BC2 RW       0  2092173 NR 555C WD       0        0 C.D.  Invalid
N/A     2BDA RW       0  5529606 RW 5574 WD       0        0 C.D.  Invalid

Total          -------- --------           -------- --------
  Track(s)            0  7621779                  0        0
  MB(s)               0   476361                  0        0

53 Posts

July 17th, 2013 23:00

Can you confirm if both the R1 and the R2 pools are not full?

91 Posts

July 18th, 2013 01:00

Please provide the symapi logs after masking the symm id.

22 Posts

July 18th, 2013 05:00

As I told earlier source is VMAX and target is DMX .We do have lot of free space on Source and on DMX its thick allocated.

22 Posts

July 18th, 2013 05:00

I am not fiding any errors in the symapi log , the log reports successfull establishment of pair...

07/17/2013 16:09:51.892   8632   3996     Initialize device track tables in (xxxx,xxx).....................Not Needed.

07/17/2013 16:09:52.118   8632   3996     Mark target device(s) in (xxxx,xxx) to refresh from source.......Not Needed.

07/17/2013 16:09:52.118   8632   3996     Merge track tables between source and target in (xxxx,xxx).......Not Needed.

07/17/2013 16:09:52.119   8632   3996     Read/Write Enable device(s) in (xxxx,xxx) on SA at source (R1)...Not Needed.

07/17/2013 16:09:52.119   8632   3996     Set device(s) in (xxxx,xxx) to be RDF Ready at source (R1).......Not Needed.

07/17/2013 16:09:52.264   8632   3996 EMC:SYMRDF                ASCrasusres250_03    remote: (0), RA Grp: (47), Flags: (0), ASCrasusres250_03: SYSCALL_NON_ZERO_RC, Order 17 code: 0x29, Order 17: SRR1_NEED_DD_TO_RESUME, SYMAPI sts: SYMAPI_C_NEED_MERGE_TO_RESUME

07/17/2013 16:09:52.289   8632   3996     Merge track tables between source and target in (xxxx,xxx).......Started.

07/17/2013 16:10:22.549   8632   3996 Result of locally Polling TAG:0161007F#67: (D0 is done running) on SID: 000xxxxxxxx

07/17/2013 16:10:22.551   8632   3996     Devices: 2BDF-2BF1 in (xxxx,xxx).................................Merged.

07/17/2013 16:10:34.562   8632   3996 Result of locally Polling TAG:0161007E#67: (D0 is done running) on SID: 000xxxxxxxx

07/17/2013 16:10:34.563   8632   3996     Devices: 2BC2-2BDE in (xxxx,xxx).................................Merged.

07/17/2013 16:10:34.581   8632   3996     Merge track tables between source and target in (xxxx,xxx).......Done.

07/17/2013 16:10:34.617   8632   3996     Resume RDF link(s) for device(s) in (xxxx,xxx)...................Done.

07/17/2013 16:10:34.727   8632   3996   The RDF 'INCREMENTAL ESTABLISH' operation SUCCEEDED.

91 Posts

July 18th, 2013 06:00

*  There would be something in the backend which is causing the device pair to go to INVALID state.

*  As you have already logged a call with the support, you may have the only workaround suggested to try and find out. Try it on one of the device pair and check.

* For better understanding for forum users, could you share the details as to why we need to fully allocate thin device on source side(in case if the support had shared the cause)

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