Its XP for me again.. Sigh.... :(

Hi if you are using incompatible software on vista how is that a vista problem ?

thay cant make it compatible for all programs think about it.service

packs will only be for Vista OS.and what bug thay find in it.

The software that you are trying to run has to be updated by its company to run with Vista.

Just my ideas to each his one tho

Hi andreychuck,

I don't think that SP1 is going to solve very many problems with incompatible software. It will certainly address some hardware, driver, OS, etc. issues, but it is up to the application vendors to update their software. Vista specs were released to manufacturers well in advance of the official release, but a great number of them did not update their software. Possibly this was a marketing decision (ie. we won't update our software until there is a bigger Vista user base), but it is certainly frustrating for the early adopters of Vista.

 

In my opinion, many, many, many of the problems that we see on a daily basis on this board are also due to the fact that users have not done their homework prior to installing Vista. While MS has provided an "upgrade" path, most (if not all) of the early beta testers and reviewers have recommended a "Clean" install. This is obviously a lot more work for the user, but the end result (in the majority of cases) is a system that works. When we switched to Windows XP from earlier versions, the better choice was a clean install rather than an upgrade, but an upgrade did work for most. This is clearly not the case with Vista and I think that MS should have pointed this out a bit more forcefully.

 

MS did provide the Vista Upgrade Advisor and an "official" software compatibility listing however. I wonder how many people actually used these and followed the recommendations?

 

I purchased an XPS M1710 in December and I didn't wait for my "express upgrade" to arrive (still hasn't). I purchased a retail upgrade version of Ultimate, backed up my data and settings, performed a clean install, installed the required drivers, re-installed my compatible applications and updated the others (at least those that had Vista updates available). To date (fingers crossed) I have had absolutely no problems. When I first booted the system (after the install), the connection to my home network (via Ethernet) was up and running with no intervention on my part, and when I switched over from hard wired to wireless, all I had to do was enter the network name and password.

 

All in all, I'm VERY impressed with Vista and I find it almost annoying when I have to use my WinXP desktop to run a few of the legacy apps that aren't Vista compatible.

 

While I'm certainly not arguing your decision to wait for SP1, I just wanted to voice my opinion that I think Vista is "ready for prime time" now. Now if only the application vendors can get their acts together.........

 

Good luck (and Go Leafs Go)

I guess i am like you i have Vista on 3 computers also

but on 2 i have ultimate x64  & premium x32 on this one

my msi board  IT has Business x64 & premium x64

on my laptop i have ultimate x32 these are all from retail Vista that are running

without no problems.

I was in the bata testing way back in the summer i got my retail all most 2 months before

it was out to the public so i am ahead of a lot people. being a part of Microsoft technet

it has helped me out with all of the does & do nots of Vista  if it says not to put in a

program i do not do it saves a lot of BSOD more time to find what does work, well i am

glad that Vista is here to stay.

 

Have a Good Day:smileyhappy:

Microsoft changed the game with Vista. Earlier releases of Windows were overwhelming compatible with older applications. XP even offers compatibility layers to ensure apps could run. I do think M$ is primarily to blame especially with the clear monopoly they hold on the Os and business software market. They are so paranoid about protecting their OS files that they have decided on their own that people need to upgrade much of their software in order to run properly. That is just poor design and programming. Many people can not afford the cost of a new $500 office suite or $75 game just because M$ wants more profit. IMHO, Microsoft's focus has predominately been on reducing piracy and not on developing stable and reliable OS's. Read their mission statement and I think you would agree.

 

The upgrade advisor is not perfect at determining if an app is compatible or not. Some applications are known to not work and the Advisor will say so. For many others, the advisor will simply say that there are no "known" issues or there "may" be some minor compatibility issues. If someone is complaining because a program won't run that the Vista advisor indicates won't run, that is the users problem. For the later case, it is perfectly reasonable to assume their application should run reasonably well.

 

Another thought. Part of the problem with updated software has to do with the radically different DirectX 10 implementation in Vista. Particularly for games. Software developers are essentially having to rewrite applications to utilize DirectX. The funny thing is that the Vista Aero user interface doesn't use DirectX 10 either. It apparently relies on DirectX 9 as I understand it. :smileyvery-happy:

 

BTW, registered for upgrade in when first available in early January. Still waiting for upgrade to arrive.

 

 

OOPS my computer went nuts. See post below!!!!!

See below. Sorry for the dupes!!

 

I'm about ready to agree with the original poster.  I received a Dell Inspiron with Vista preloaded -- so you'd think that was a 'clean' install -- but I still have so many problems with it, I'm beginning to quickly despise it -- and I'm a technician.

 

After fighting with it through the night (all night), I've managed to get most of the bugs worked out.  However, my two biggest issues (as of now) is with web browsing.  IE7 (pre-installed) doesn't want to access many Shockwave sites -- even though I've uinstalled/reinstalled Shockwave and Flash many times), and Firefox just sits at 'searching for site . . . " whenever you try to browse anything but Google sites.

 

Has anyone experienced any issues such as this, and am I missing something?  Any suggestions/advice/help will be greatly appreciated.