Skip to main content
Start a Conversation

Unsolved

This post is more than 5 years old

farmer70acre

1 Rookie

 • 

124 Posts

67577

April 13th, 2005 14:00

norton ghost 2003??

I was going to purchase this to make an image of my drive but I read that it can not back up my disk to a USB drive ?? I have an external USB harddrive and I want something that I can use to do a drive image so if I have problems i don't have to reninstall the whole system.
Is there anything out there that is easy to use and dependable that I can use with USB1??
Thanks

GreyMack

2 Intern

 • 

2.2K Posts

April 17th, 2005 23:00

Thanks all. I finally got around to making a bootable Ghost 2003 CD using Roxio Easy Cd Creator 5. It works similarly to the instructions given for using Nero.
 
Now I have the option of disaster recovery by booting my notebook to Ghost from the CD, even when the media bay floppy drive is replaced by a second hard drive.
 

GM

farmer70acre

1 Rookie

 • 

124 Posts

April 24th, 2005 18:00

help!!! I am totally confused here.. I bought the ghost2003 but before I even open it I wanted to make sure i could do the bootable cd but I'm lost. Maybe reading too much? One place says about using a floppu formatted in windows 98?  Do you just copy this to cd or use nero to make it bootable?
Ratified has a ghost boot disk download specifically for win XP except the ghost executable- do you just type in ghost.exe or copy the file into it? Would this just copied to a cd make the cd bootable? From what I was reading it suggests that I shouldn't use the procedure directly from Norton ghost for win XP?? Will Ghost 2003 write directly to my cdr in winxp? or does this have to be done using nero? I saw where someone had a problem with doing it by this method and couldn't restore using the cd.. I want to put this on cd and on my USB hard drive..
The directions I saw were mostly for v2002 so this is really confusing me. Please help a somewhat computer illiterate..
Does the ghost go to DOS to restore? If so is there something special I should know? I don't work in DOS and I am lost.
 

markcj

2 Posts

April 24th, 2005 19:00

@farmer70acre wrote:
help!!! I am totally confused here.. I bought the ghost2003 but before I even open it I wanted to make sure i could do the bootable cd but I'm lost. Maybe reading too much? One place says about using a floppu formatted in windows 98? Do you just copy this to cd or use nero to make it bootable?
Ratified has a ghost boot disk download specifically for win XP except the ghost executable- do you just type in ghost.exe or copy the file into it? Would this just copied to a cd make the cd bootable? From what I was reading it suggests that I shouldn't use the procedure directly from Norton ghost for win XP?? Will Ghost 2003 write directly to my cdr in winxp? or does this have to be done using nero? I saw where someone had a problem with doing it by this method and couldn't restore using the cd.. I want to put this on cd and on my USB hard drive..
The directions I saw were mostly for v2002 so this is really confusing me. Please help a somewhat computer illiterate..
Does the ghost go to DOS to restore? If so is there something special I should know? I don't work in DOS and I am lost.



If you haven't opened it, do yourself a favor and return it and pick up Acronis True Image ($33 at Newegg.) It's simpler, less buggy, and more powerful, and it works from within Windows (though it also lets you make bootable media if you'd like.)

GreyMack

2 Intern

 • 

2.2K Posts

April 24th, 2005 20:00

Norton Ghost can be used to create a bootable DOS floppy, and either Nero or Roxio can be used to create a bootable CD and copy the files from the floppy. Then you will have a bootable Ghost 2003 CD. You can also launch Ghost 2003 from within Windows, but if you ever need Ghost to restore an image when Windows is unavailable, due to system corruption or hard drive replacement, you will need the bootable version.
 
The Radified post refers to a problem with Ghost 2003 on XP Pro SP2. The zipped download linked from Radified is reported to contain all the files necessary except the ghost.exe file. Create and appropriately name a folder on your desktop, or some other convenient location, download and unzip the files there. (After extracting (or unzipping) the contents, you may delete or relocate the zipped file. Only the unzipped contents will be used for the bootable Ghost 2003 Floppy) Then add a copy of the ghost.exe file as outlined below.
 
Locate a copy of the ghost.exe file on the Princeton server as mentioned in the post by Sirhc on the Radified forum. According to that post, the 1/10/2002 version of ghost.exe did not work with XP SP2, but the version dated 12/24/2003 did. Create another folder, download the file indicated by Sirhc, change the extension to .zip, and extract the files.
 
Copy the file named ghost.exe, dated 12/24/2003, to the previously empty Ghost folder created inside the folder created in the previous paragraph.
 
According to this post on the Radified site, a modified procedure is necessary to format a boot floppy for this purpose when using XP.
 
 
Use CD writing software (Nero or Roxio?) to create a bootable CD, adding the files from the  floppy.
 

GM

Message Edited by GreyMack on 05-21-2005 03:38 AM

GreyMack

2 Intern

 • 

2.2K Posts

April 24th, 2005 21:00

Ghost 2003 is DOS-based, but it offers a menu-driven setup screen in either Windows or DOS. If you use the Windows-based set-up screen, the system will reboot to DOS and execute the task you have defined. The DOS menu is slightly less colorful and user-friendly, but it does not require you to use DOS commands.
 
When creating images, you can launch Ghost 2003 from within Windows and use the wizard menu to define the imaging task. You can select cloning or imaging, the source to be imaged (either a single partition or the entire hard drive), the destination for the image to be stored, extra drivers (USB and other), and level of compression. When completed, the system will reboot to DOS and run. Alternatively, you can also create images by booting to the Ghost 2003 boot floppy (or the Ghost 2003 bootable CD that you have created) and direct the task from the menu provided in the DOS window.
 
When restoring images with Ghost 2003, you can launch the program from within Windows, if available, and use the menu-driven wizards to direct the task which will be completed when the system reboots to run Ghost 2003 in DOS, or you can launch Ghost 2003 from the Ghost boot floppy (or CD you have created) and direct the task from the DOS menu.
 
GM

farmer70acre

1 Rookie

 • 

124 Posts

April 25th, 2005 09:00

Is this the correct file? 8/10/2004  9:33 AM      3846668 ng2003b793_en.x86 for the bootable floppy
I couldn't find one dated 12-24-03
 
Does ghost work with the cdr in winxp? any time I want to copy something to disk I have to do the xp workaround thing or go through nero.
TY

GreyMack

2 Intern

 • 

2.2K Posts

April 25th, 2005 11:00

That's it. After downloading, change the extension by simply renaming it to ng2003b793_en.zip and then extract the files. One of the files included in the package is ghost.exe, dated 12/24/2003.
 
Ghost 2003 directly supports reading and writing disk and partition images to and from CD or DVD.
 

GM

farmer70acre

1 Rookie

 • 

124 Posts

April 28th, 2005 17:00

The ghost.exe do I put that in a separate folder inside the folder containing the downloaded boot files(the one made afte extracting all of the files) Do I need to use nero to put this on cd or can I just copy the files to cd using the xp copy file?
Sorry for so many questions but I want to get it right the first time.
 
If I do this right and it boots from cd I assume you have choice to either cancel or restore?
If I were to restore from the cd do you have to swap cd's or is all of the info going to be on the boot cd?
 
TY

GreyMack

2 Intern

 • 

2.2K Posts

April 28th, 2005 23:00

In a folder named "files for creating a XP Pro SP2 Ghost 2003 Boot Floppy" or something to that effect, you should have:
 
 Folder - GHOST (insider this folder, place the ghost.exe file dated 12/24/03)
 
 Files -
  MOUSE.INI
  COMMAND.COM
  MOUSE.COM
  AUTOEXEC.BAT
  CONFIG.SYS
  HIMEM.SYS
  IO.SYS
  MSDOS.SYS
 
Create the floppy according to the instructions on the Radified site.

You will need a CD-RW drive, a blank CD-R, and Nero or some other CD writing software to create a bootable CD and emulate the floppy. When creating the bootable CD, select all files on the floppy as items to be included. The specific instructions will vary. Do you have Nero, and if so, which version?

This post from zergkiller, near the bottom, gives instructions for using Nero 6 Ultra Edition / Nero Express and a Ghost Boot Floppy to create the Ghost Boot CD. The procedure will be similar.
 
 

This Ghost 2003 Boot Disk (CD) can be used to launch the DOS-based Ghost 2003 menu and make or restore images from other locations, like your USB hard drive, even in an emergency when Windows is unavailable. The DOS operating system, and the DOS-based Ghost application, are on this CD. This will be most useful if you need to recover a previously saved image in the event of a catastrophic system failure or a hard drive replacement, both of which may not allow you to launch Ghost from within Windows. You can launch Ghost 2003 from within Windows, and it offers an easier wizard-driven menu for creating and restoring images. The Ghost Boot Disk (Floppy or CD) is insurance.

I forget where we started. Oh yes, you wanted to save an image of your system configuration to an external USB hard drive and have the option of restoring an image, in addition to the option of reinstalling everything, in case the need ever arises. Good idea. Ghost 2003 has the ability to generate a Ghost Boot Floppy for use in an emergency, and we have found that you can also create a Ghost Boot CD. Neither of these contain an image of your system. They will launch the DOS-based Ghost 2003 menu, which you can direct to either create and save or recover images. Yes, you will have the option of cancelling at any time up until the last step where it notifies you that your system will reboot to DOS and execute the task you have selected.

You can create an image by using the DOS-based Ghost boot disk, but it's easier to run the Ghost set-up wizard from within Windows and then let it reboot to DOS to execute the task of either creating and saving an image or restoring an image. You will likely only want to make an image of a working configuration anyway, so Windows should be available whenever you need to create an image. Install Ghost from the retail CD just as any other application in Windows, and then run it from the Start menu or from a desktop icon.

Another option when creating Ghost images is to save the image to CD or DVD, and that comes with the additional option of making the CD/DVD bootable. When those options are both applied, that image does not require a separate Ghost Boot Disk to assure recovery. Storing an image on CD/DVD is favored for reliability and economy, particularly if redundant copies are made, but may become inconvenient when the primary system partition (normally the C: drive) grows to require a multitude of disks to contain the image. (Some users elect to store larger collections of user data on a separate partition, to prevent the primary system partition from growing unnecessarily, and back up user data files separately. You may have noted this mentioned in the Radified guide.)

There may be an occasion when you wish to restore a previous image and Windows is fully functional. In that case, the use of a Ghost Boot Disk may not be necessary, because you can launch Ghost from within Windows and use the wizard to set up the restore task, after which the system will reboot to DOS and execute the image restore operation.
 

GM

Message Edited by GreyMack on 05-21-2005 03:44 AM

farmer70acre

1 Rookie

 • 

124 Posts

May 20th, 2005 20:00

Files on CD

I thought I did this #1 wrong because I copied the entire folder ghost boot floppy instead of the individual files to make the bootable cd with Nero 5.5 so I did a second one.. Do either of these look right? I haven't installed the ghost yet. Probably this week. But these disks look a little strange to me but maybe that's the way they are to look for an XP boot cd??? Which one looks right??

#1 CD

folder-- ghostbootfloppy

folder-- ghost

AUTOEXEC.BAT
COMMAND.COM
CONFIG.SYS

HIMEN.SYS

MOUSE.COM
MOUSE.INI

 

#2 The other cd- This one I selected all of the individual files and the ghost folder

folder- GHOST

HIMEN.SYS

MOUSE.COM

MOUSE.INI

GreyMack

2 Intern

 • 

2.2K Posts

May 22nd, 2005 18:00

I erred earlier by indicating this could be done without a bootable floppy. When you start the CD burning software and select the option to create a bootable CD, it will require a bootable floppy to emulate.

The most direct procedure would be to install Ghost 2003 on your system, download/install all updates, and run the Ghost Utilities to create a Ghost 2003 Boot Floppy. A bootable CD emulating the floppy disk can then be created.

The discussion on the Radified link posted earlier refers to a problem you may not encounter, but I find it difficult to predict. The post refers to an updated version of the DOS executable, Ghost.exe, which you may already have, and the modification of a floppy formatted by XP, which may not be necessary. There are no widespread reports of XP Pro SP2 users having this problem, and earlier posts on this thread are not specific to XP Pro SP2.

A plan to test and verify the entire imaging and restoration process without impacting your current configuration is recommended. This may require additional resources, but it's the only way to be sure you have a workable solution.
 

GM

VBdotNet

415 Posts

May 22nd, 2005 18:00


@GreyMack wrote:

The most direct procedure would be to install Ghost 2003 on your system, download/install all updates, and run the Ghost Utilities to create a Ghost 2003 Boot Floppy. A bootable CD emulating the floppy disk can then be created.

GM

Also, if LiveUpdate is a version less than v2.6 , download and install the current version of LiveUpdate from here. It will uninstall your old version of LiveUpdate and install the new version for you.

farmer70acre

1 Rookie

 • 

124 Posts

May 23rd, 2005 01:00

I can't do a bootable floppy, my floppy drive won't read any floppies any more.. I'm broke and can't get it replaced. It gave me fits for a couple years and now it won't read anything. I know it's not the floppies because an old win 98 computer can read them.. Won't the cd I made with nero 5.5 to be bootable with the file I downloaded for winxp bootable floppy work??
TY

VBdotNet

415 Posts

May 23rd, 2005 03:00


@farmer70acre wrote:
I can't do a bootable floppy, my floppy drive won't read any floppies any more..
TY
Can you do a bootable memory stick?  (See this post)

farmer70acre

1 Rookie

 • 

124 Posts

May 23rd, 2005 07:00

don't have one of those memory sticks :(

Was this post helpful?

View All

No Events found!

Top