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January 18th, 2008 23:00

Numerous issues with Vista

OK heres the deal - I bought an XPS 420 (which cost me around £1000, when the deals were on over christmas on the UK site) and I got it on Tuesday and since then I have constantly had NOTHING but problems with Vista. Things were ok at first, there were some issues, but I think they were mainly due to the computer doing lots of things at once...


Then I installed ZoneAlarm (which was compatible with vista according to their site), but during the installation the installer became unresponsive, I waited for 15 minutes to see whether it would sort itself and it did not so I tried ctrl alt delete to bring up the task manager (I know that on vista it goes to the blue screen and then you chose task manager, but even that doesnt come up) I left it fr a little longer, nothing, tried clicking the X and it came up with "end process" and clicked it, nothing happened.

Then I tried to shut my PC down and nothing happened so I turned it off at the computer. I waited 5 or 10 minutes and restarted the computer, it took a good while to start up (takes atleast 2 or so minutes) and when i logged on I saw that Zonealarm was apparently installed, but the problems were just starting, the screen would go completely black and then an error message would come up saying

"Failure: Security Options"

or something similar, I clicked OK and tried to uninstall Zonealarm, but the uninstaller would crash and the events would occur exactly the same as when the installer crashed, resulting in me having to turn the computer off at the tower.

Now when I attempt to uninstall Zonealarm it comes up with - exception processing message 0x0000013 parameters 0x75fb023c0x83f480bc 0x75fb023c 0x75fb023c, with options of cancel, pressing continue then brings up the message of "Validation failed for c:\users\simon\appdata\local\temp\vsinit.dll."

On top of that whenever the computer starts up and something to do with Zonealarm initiates (which it does automatically) it seems to cause a complete and total shutdown of everything (not in terms of power shut down), I cant open any new programs, any that are open go unresponsive, the internet stops working,I cant log off, I cant shut down or restart, I cant bring up task manager, end processes etc. It seems that the screen saver wont even work, as earier on it came up with "No options, this screen saver has no options that you can set" the screen saver is meant to come on after 10 minutes of inactivity and i didnt initiate any attempted changes or anything.

Something else that seems to have appeared is a small box in the corner came up saying there are security problems with the system and click to sort the problems out, and it brought up Windows Security center, and everyting was set to off, when I tried to turn Windows Firewall on it came up with "Security center cant turn on Windows Firewall, turn on windows firewall manually" then whe I press the link to do it manually nothing happens.

In total I have had to turn my computer off at the tower a total of 7 or 8 times, and I have only had the computer for 3 days.

Apologies at the length of the post, but I'm sure you'll understand that this is incredibly important I get this sorted out as it has cost me an awful lot of money and at the moment is completely useless.

EDIT - Oh and as an addition, when I try to open Firefox after Zonealarm appears and makes everything (including the net) mess up it comes up with this message

"could not initialise the browsers security component. the most likely cause is problems with files in your browsers profile directory. please check tat this directory has no read/write restrictions and your hard disc is not full or close to full. it is recommended that you exit the browser and fix the problem. if you continue to use this browser session, you might see incorrect browser behaviour when accessing security features"

Then if I were to restart firefox would be fine until Zonealarm crops up.

It doesnt even matter how Zonealarm crops up or whether I cancel it initialising, it has the same effect.

Message Edited by Tatious on 01-19-2008 01:27 AM

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January 18th, 2008 23:00

Yep I installed it as a Vista install (it came up with a choice and I chose Vista) and when installing i did leave it to install for a while, but it was obvious it crashed, and when it became obvious I still left it for an incredibly long time.

I wasnt aware of the Run as administrator, I just downloaded the exe file and double clicked it.

I didnt set a restore point but I did look for the restore option earlier (incase there is one automatically set up at installation of OS) and couldnt find it, could you point me to where it is?

Im fine with repairing/reinstalling vista, I have all the CDs and stuff of the preinstalled programs and the only program I have installed so far is iTunes, but obviously I would prefer that to be the final option.

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January 18th, 2008 23:00

When you began the ZoneAlarm install, did you double click or right click and select Run as Administrator? Run as Administrator will give much better overall installations than just running the program. Shouldn't be that way, but it is.
 
Did you see a menu to select the OS as XP or Vista? If not, you may have installed the wrong program.
 
There are long delays in the ZoneAlarm installation, and paitence is needed.
 
Did you set a Restore point before the installation. This needs to be done always. If you have one, then try to do a Restore.
 
I just installed ZoneAlarm, and ir went perfectly.
 
Regardless of what you read, most people have no problems with Vista. The Press apparently have a vendetta against Microsoft because Vista was two years late. Biggest problems are trying to force load programs which are not compatible with Vista. The first thing anyone should do is NOT to start adding all their software, but clean up the system of Bloat-Ware and learn the system. Vista has a lot of different options than XP, and it's not easy to fine familiar settings.
 
If you can't recover, try a repair install of Vista, Control F11.
 
 
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Inspiron E1705, Win Vista Premium, T7200 Core 2 Duo (4MB, 2.0 GHz 667MHz), 2 GB DDR2 677 MHz RAM, 120 GB Samsung HD, Nvidia Go 7900 GS - 156.69 Driver, 17” Sharp UltraSharp TrueLife Wide-Screen WUXGA
 

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January 19th, 2008 00:00

For future software installations on Vista
 
Here is some good advice when installing programs in Vista, # 4 is good advice even if the program was designed for Vista.

Here is how to install software or drivers on Vista that are for XP,2000,NT4,98,95

1. Right click on the setup.exe file for the software/driver you are trying to install and select properties, if there is an "Unblock" button on the General Tab, click it, then go to the compatibility Tab

2. Tick the "run this file in compatibility mode" box and then select XP, or whatever OS the software was designed for, in the drop down box, Tick "run as Administrator" if it is available, hit OK

3. Now double click this setup.exe file to execute the install process, hopefully all will go well and install the drivers/Software you need.

4. If the exe installs software for the device, or you have installed software only, you need to navigate to the program folder where it installed, then do the compatibility thing (1 & 2) again for the program executable(s). If the program was designed for Vista skip compatibility mode, just tick "run as administrator"

I do not guarantee all drivers or software to work in Vista, but a large percentage do..

Good luck.

If the Software/ installer (exe file) is on CD, copy the entire contents of the CD to a folder in Vista, then start at #1

There is no compatibility mode for .msi installers
16 bit programs will not run on Vista

If Drivers are in INF form, go to Device manager, find the hardware you want to install a driver for and right click select "Update Driver Software", select "Browse My Computer for Driver Software", Hit the Browse button, navigate to the folder with the driver and then hit next. Follow the prompts.

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January 19th, 2008 00:00

Click on Start and then enter restore in the search box. When up, click on Repair Windows using System Restore. Then either use the last point or click to see older Restores and run.
 
You can get to the same point by running Control Panel then Back up Your Computer under Syatem and Maintenance.
 
Dimension 9100, Dual-Boot Win XP / Vista Home Premium, 3.0 GHz P4, 3 GB DDR2 533 MHz RAM, 160 GB SATA II Samsung (XP), 300 GB SATA II Seagate (Vista), 250 GB SimpleTech USB (WD Drive), Nvidia Go 6800 (425/825 MHz - XP, 400/800 MHz - Vista, Vista Driver - 163.75), Dell 1901 UltraSharp FP

Inspiron E1705, Win Vista Premium, T7200 Core 2 Duo (4MB, 2.0 GHz 667MHz), 2 GB DDR2 677 MHz RAM, 120 GB Samsung HD, Nvidia Go 7900 GS - 156.69 Driver, 17” Sharp UltraSharp TrueLife Wide-Screen WUXGA

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January 20th, 2008 20:00

Roight. Update -

The problem is still occurring and still rendering my computer completely unuseable.

I attempted to do system restore but it wasnt able to do it for whatever reason.

After this I decided that I would reinstall Vista, as this meant it would get rid of the problem, and it means I can control what software is on the PC (as theres preinstalled software I received on my comp that I dont really want) put the CD in and saw it didnt run from start up, so tried running it once logged on, and it didnt work, affected exactly the same as other programs, crashed.

Can I make it so that Vista installation begins at startup? or failing that, how easy is it for me to format my drive?

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January 21st, 2008 06:00

Just bumping as I really need my questions in my last post answered

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January 21st, 2008 13:00

Two choices:
 
install Vista from the DVD. To do this, go into the BIOS and change the boot order so that the CD/DVD drive is first in the list. Exit and save. Once the computer restarts, place the Vista DVD in the drive, shut down (power off) and then power on (cold boot). The machine will now boot from the DVD.
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