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October 13th, 2006 07:00

Vista Capable Explained

I found this today at PC World:
 
PCs with the Windows Vista Capable logo can run lower-end versions of Vista, such as Windows Vista Home Basic. Meanwhile, Windows Vista Premium Ready means the machines can run the higher-end versions of Vista, such as Windows Vista Home Premium and Windows Vista Ultimate.

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October 15th, 2006 18:00

Where are you getting that information?

From http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/evaluate/hardware/vistarpc.mspx, it says 64 MB should be fine for a display the size of the one on the D620. Also, there is no mention of whether the memory must be dedicated to the video card or not.

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October 15th, 2006 19:00

gl, that link definitely says 128 MB under the video memory - the only 64 I can see refers to a 64 bit processor.
 

Message Edited by aussie_owner on 10-16-2006 07:14 AM

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October 15th, 2006 19:00

Yes, I did see that - but I also note that while the "adequate graphics memory" is given as a sliding scale for the GPU - i.e. the processor unit requirements, the actual graphics memory required is not given on a sliding scale - it is specified as 128MB.
 
Given the highest resolution for the GPU requires 256MB, which is clearly over and above the 128MB, I don't think the two specs are interchangeable.  While this is not in anyway my area of expertise, I read it that one lot of memory is required for one thing, and the other for something else, but all relating to graphics (if that makes any sense).
 
I also note there is a bandwidth requirement and wonder exactly what THAT means too.

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October 15th, 2006 19:00

Look at the 'adequate graphics memory' bullet in the GPU column and follow the 3 footnote to the bottom. There, it clearly states the video memory requirements for various screen sizes (in terms of displayable pixels).

Also, I fail to see where on the page it's indicated that the required graphics memory has to be dedicated memory on the video card. As long as the GPU can use X MB, it shouldn't matter where it's coming from (assuming the system meory is decently fast).

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October 18th, 2006 13:00

Geez...only 4GB RAM???

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October 18th, 2006 13:00

Hmm, this Optiplex 745 here with 4GB ram, 80gb hd, radeon 1300 (128mb) core 2 duo (2 x 1.86 GHz) only says "Vista Capable". I loaded Vista Ultimate on it and it feels smooth as silk with Aero Glass running.

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October 18th, 2006 14:00

I didn't order it, someone else did. What didn't make sense was 4GB of RAM, but only a 40GB HD (I put an 80 in it from a 520), also shelling out the extra cash for the x1300 card but only putting a CDRW/DVD-ROM drive in there. I picked up some Pioneer 16x DVD+/- +DL drives online a few months back for $35.

I did encounter that little XP issue where only 3 of the 4GB is available to XP. Once I put Vista-64 on it, all 4GB was available.

Message Edited by stonent on 10-18-2006 10:30 AM

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October 18th, 2006 19:00

Do I detect a hint of RAM envy?:smileyvery-happy::smileytongue:

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October 19th, 2006 02:00

Well I put Vista 32 on my i4100/c610 laptop and with nothing running, and using the Windows Classic theme with everything turned off (and no gadget bar) I have 348mb ram in use!

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October 19th, 2006 07:00

OK - I'll ask the dumb question - and this means what exactly?
 
:smileyvery-happy:

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October 19th, 2006 08:00

It means that Vista is using about 30-40% more memory in a idle state that XP did.  I think my XP on an 8300 wih 1 gb RAM uses about 225mb RAM just idling.

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October 19th, 2006 11:00

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrr - that is more meaningful to me.  Thank you.
 
I don't think I'd like to run it on my work Latitude then - we threw some more RAM in it, but I use it as a SQL Server test bed at times and it struggles. :smileyvery-happy: 
 

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October 27th, 2006 03:00

Jumping into this message thread because of the mention of 64 bit Vista...

I am trying to find out something about this because I read a online article saying there would be two different Vista types for each version, a 32 bit and a 64 bit on separate Windows installation DVD's. That article is at:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_ff_x64.asp

So that had me wondering if DELL plans to send both. Or would it be only the 32 bit OS shipping on new computers (eventually) and sent to people choosing to upgrade later?

I will need the 64 bit OS, probably to be used on a Core 2 Duo T7200 processor, for a certain 64 bit program.

Anyone have some thoughts or answers about this?

I realize most people will want the much more compatable 32 bit OS anyway, since the 64 bit would require correct (and digitally signed) drivers for hardware.

If DELL only sends out 32 bit Vista I must look elsewhere, especially considering the computer wouldn't be entirely desgined with 64 bit in mind.

On the same subject, how about dual booting those 32 bit and 64 bit OS's (both being Vista Home Premium for example) on the same computer? Possible at all?

Interested in hearing from anyone. TIA!

Message Edited by iKlaatu on 10-26-2006 11:27 PM

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October 27th, 2006 04:00

A dual boot is just that.  If you have the capability to runa 64 bit system, then yes you can run both versions.

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October 27th, 2006 05:00

Alright, thanks, just seemed to me that two Vista's might be trouble.

Still wondering if DELL will have both the 32 bit and 64 bit Vista on two separate DVD's, like the person wrote in that article, meaning both get sent with new computers or upgrade.

I'm guessing DELL must be intending to make their computers fully 64 bit compliant for the those that will use Vista Premium or Business (and Ultimate?). This seems a grey area when I went looking for info about it.
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