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June 8th, 2020 09:00
xps i3
dear board,
i'm about to receive:
Processor 9th Gen Intel® Core™ i3-9100 (4-Core, 6MB Cache, up to 4.2GHz with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology) Operating System Windows 10 Pro 64-bit English Video Card NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 1030 2GB GDDR5 Chassis Options 460 Watt Power Supply Memory 8GB DDR4 at 2400MHz; up to 32GB (Additional memory sold separately) Hard Drive 256GB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD (Boot) + 2TB 7200RPM 3.5" SATA HDD (Storage)
i have ordered Acronis True Image 2020 for first backup / full image, and to clone it...
what can i expect to see when i look at the partitions, either in disk management, or disk part?
can i get it down to a bare bones, c and d and use the system image to restore computer and or a clone in case of failure? in other words do i need, factory restore partition?
or in other other words if i ran the(windows 7) create system image what would i see it trying to backup?
ty,
ts


speedstep
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June 8th, 2020 10:00
Cloning images of drives is not supported by Dell Or Microsoft.
If you have any issues with your cloning you will have to take that up with Acronis.
The non support of 3rd party software like GHOST or Acronis True Image goes back to WINDOWS NT.
Norton Symantec thru in the towel with windows 8 in 2012.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/314828/the-microsoft-policy-for-disk-duplication-of-windows-installations
Sysprep images are not clones.
Cloning or duplicating an installation instead of making a sysprep image can lead to duplicate SIDs. It can also lead to a problem called disk signature collision.
You may run into following disk collision error messages in Windows 10.
speedstep
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June 8th, 2020 10:00
Windows 7 Legacy MBR partitions are never an option for systems past 6th gen Skylake.
All systems from ALL vendors are 64 bit WIN10 only. Older OS including windows XP VISTA 7 and 8 are End of life never to be used again.
There will also not be ANY 32 bit drivers.
ATI NVIDIA INTEL and other vendors have gone along with this.
UEFI GPT booting is the ONLY option for internal SATA or PCI-E storage.
Legacy MBR and ATA mode are no longer supported for booting.
To learn more, see UEFI/GPT-based hard drive partitions
and BIOS/MBR-based hard drive partitions.
The MSR wont be visible.
After your first feature update there will be 5 partitions. None of them are optional.
deauxwolf
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June 8th, 2020 11:00
tyvm,
so not to be to technical, after reading all that, i'll have 5 partitions, boot, efi, winre, c, d?
will acronis create a image or is it useless? if so how do i create image backups of 10 pro/ home?
is veritas system recovery out too?
the sysprep is new to me...i've been at this for 30 years, slow to learn the next OS's
how do you restore systems that fail? hdd's mobos etc?
i don't do file/folder backups, just full system images, not clones on win 7, both VHD, AND Ghost 15 2vi
yes i'm familiar with ghost, no i do not plan on using, windows 7 ''create image'' on 10 that was an example of what i'd see, i get it's been ''decapitated'', namely restore failures...
next you'll tell me i cannot create a hyper-v or a 7 VM on 10
ty for your patience,
ts
fwiw my win 7 computer runs like a charm, all my legacy programs, etc., yall are almost scaring me away... almost.
deauxwolf
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June 8th, 2020 14:00
dear speedstep,
i don't know how this works, if you're gone for the day, or thought i was done, i still have questions unanswered in my last post...
let me know if your going to answer them, or tell me and my 2 xps to bugger off, i'm sure dell won't miss the sales.
ty, ts
deauxwolf
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June 8th, 2020 14:00
dear jon-jay
i know that he is not...
he answered my thread then stopped. why didn't he finish, will he finish, i don't know ''how this works''
can you answer my last Q's re how , or what software to use to backup the xps's?
ty,
ts
speedstep
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June 8th, 2020 14:00
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3020-customize-windows-10-image-audit-mode-sysprep.html
John-Jay
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June 8th, 2020 14:00
Hi, @deauxwolf
You wrote:- "i don't know how this works, if you're gone for the day, or thought i was done".
This sounds like you think that @speedstep is a Dell Employee - he is NOT!
This is a User-User based Forum!
On rare occasions you might see a Dell Employee, but they always have a User-Name that includes the word "Dell"!
deauxwolf
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June 8th, 2020 15:00
dear speedstep,
i don't know why you never answered my last post, regarding what software to use?
i know your not an employee of dell, you did take the initiative to answer my post, which i inturn i read all the links,
you still left me hanging on the last post...
can you please answer the Q'S in last post?
THAT 10's forum did not address my questions, just the fact i was new to me...
ty,
RoHe
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June 8th, 2020 16:00
@deauxwolf - You can use the free version of Macrium Reflect to create a backup image.
Just keep in mind your backup is only as current as the last one you made, so you have to make them on a regular basis...
And if necessary, you can always download the latest Win 10 ISO image for free from Microsoft to create a bootable USB stick if you ever need to do clean install or just to repair the current installation of Win 10. But a clean install removes all your personal files, your settings, and any apps you installed.
Vic384
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June 8th, 2020 17:00
@deauxwolf asked "... what software to use to backup the xps's?" I would follow @RoHe suggestion and use the free edition of Macrium Reflect to create backup images of whole drives or individual partitions. Also, be aware that Macrium Reflect can also create Rescue Media that you can use to restore the backup images if your drive becomes unbootable.
speedstep
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June 9th, 2020 04:00
https://www.dell.com/support/article/en-us/sln299044/how-to-download-and-use-the-dell-os-recovery-image-in-microsoft-windows?lang=en
Do you need to reinstall Microsoft Windows or Linux on your Dell PC due to a system crash, hard drive replacement, etc.?
The Dell OS Recovery Tool helps you download a customized Dell recovery image of Microsoft Windows or Linux that was preinstalled on your Dell PC. Dell OS Recovery Tool now supports downloading SupportAssist OS Recovery for supported Dell PCs. Follow the steps below to download the utility, create a USB recovery media and reinstall Microsoft Windows or Linux on your Dell PC.
What you need
deauxwolf
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June 14th, 2020 10:00
Hello deauxwolf,
Your topic recently received a reply.
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Did it solve your problem?
yes, i'm sure dell won't miss the sales.
you should have just answered the q's @speedstep and skipped the smart alec faces and comments, on win10 board, and others w your condescending replies...
yall may not work for dell, you do represent them.
i've got 30 years behind computers and IT, when i have a question, it's because i looked for hours before asking. i also expect answers, esspecially with untold sales on the line.
https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.dell.com
m. dell and marino at emc did well by me and my clients in the 90's- 2000, we in return did untold fortunes in business with them.
the reviews show why dell declined over the decades.
ucb
@speedstep