confuseduser43

updated

8 years ago

C

confuseduser43

4 Apprentice

591 Posts

0

4255

October 12th, 2018 14:00

Upgrade to small ssd

Hi folks, I own a Dell laptop inspiron 15 7000 series (7570) i'm looking to see to replace the 128GB ssd with a larger one but i face a problem.The crucial website does not show me any m2 ssd's in there list when i pick Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2 and check the compatibility it says "this part is not compatible " so what's the catch here ?.
  • jphughan

    11 Legend

    13985 Posts

    79931 Points

    2619

    1

    Posted October 13th, 2018 12:00


    @confuseduser43 wrote:
    Hello, Ok the idea is to get a larger ssd and an external enclosure put the new ssd into the enclosure(usb) and use something like Macrium reflect to clone the old ssd after that is completed successfully open my laptop get the old ssd out and build the new ssd in job done .I have the ifixit pro tech toolkit contains everything i need.

    External enclosures for M.2 SSDs are still a bit of a mess.  I believe at the moment, they either support only M.2 SATA or only M.2 NVMe SSDs, which is pretty annoying.  The NVMe enclosures are also pretty new, so I don't know how reliable they are.  Do you already have an external hard drive for backup purposes?  If not, you should consider getting one just to make backups, but if you do, then forget about the enclosure and instead use Macrium Reflect to capture an image file (not a clone!) of your existing hard drive to your external hard drive.  Then use the Create Rescue Media wizard in Reflect to create bootable Rescue Media.  Finally, shut down your system, replace the SSD, boot from Rescue Media, and restore the image file onto your new SSD.  Reboot and it should all work fine.  If not, boot back into Rescue Media and run Fix Boot Problems. I'm a big Reflect user, fyi.  Good luck.

  • confuseduser43

    4 Apprentice

    591 Posts

    597

    0

    Posted October 19th, 2018 14:00

    I have tried but face a strange problem my laptop refuses to turn on with the new ssd  when i put back the original the laptop turns on just fine what the f..... is this ??????:Hmm:

  • jphughan

    11 Legend

    13985 Posts

    79931 Points

    2665

    0

    Posted October 12th, 2018 15:00

    The Crucial website probably just isn't updated.  However, the MX500 is an M.2 SATA drive.  You'd get much better performance with an M.2 NVMe drive.  Whereas SATA drives top out around 550 MB/s, NVMe drives can deliver over 3 GB/s if they're not bottlenecked by the system -- and even when they are, they'd still deliver about 1.8 GB/s.  So you might want to think about spending a bit more to get one.

    According to Dell's own Specifications document for the Inspiron 7570 here, the system has a 2.5" drive bay and an M.2 slot.  You could of course install a SATA SSD into the 2.5" bay if you wanted, but in addition to that, the M.2 slot supports both SATA and NVMe SSDs.  It says up to "512GB PCIe x4 NVMe drive", but there's absolutely no reason that a larger SSD wouldn't work if you wanted one.  It's likely that Dell simply didn't test a higher capacity SSD in this system and therefore won't officially claim compatibility.  But if you wanted to stick with the MX500 M.2 SATA drive, that should absolutely work too.

  • confuseduser43

    4 Apprentice

    591 Posts

    2644

    0

    Posted October 13th, 2018 03:00

    Hello,

    Interesting information about that better performance i will have a look at it thank you for the suggestion.

  • confuseduser43

    4 Apprentice

    591 Posts

    2621

    0

    Posted October 13th, 2018 12:00

    Hello, Ok the idea is to get a larger ssd and an external enclosure put the new ssd into the enclosure(usb) and use something like Macrium reflect to clone the old ssd after that is completed successfully open my laptop get the old ssd out and build the new ssd in job done .I have the ifixit pro tech toolkit contains everything i need.
  • confuseduser43

    4 Apprentice

    591 Posts

    2594

    0

    Posted October 15th, 2018 01:00

    Hello, Yes i agree external enclosures are a bit of a mess i can't find any that support NVMe only sata and only certain keys i could wait untill there develpment becomes more stable
  • confuseduser43

    4 Apprentice

    591 Posts

    2574

    0

    Posted October 16th, 2018 11:00

    it looks like  i can select my ssd within Macrium reflect click "image this disk" store this image on the 2.5 inch disk then in reflect choose "other tasks => Add Recovery Boot Menu Option shutdown my laptop replace the ssd and start from the recovery boot menu option .

  • confuseduser43

    4 Apprentice

    591 Posts

    2558

    0

    Posted October 16th, 2018 13:00

    Ok i was to fast it makes sense you can't do it that way i'll take your advice
  • jphughan

    11 Legend

    13985 Posts

    79931 Points

    2566

    0

    Posted October 16th, 2018 13:00

    No you can’t. The recovery boot menu option adds a boot entry to your Windows boot configuration database, but that won’t be usable after you physically remove your Windows drive — which is why you need to have Rescue Media to boot from.

     

    I’ve used Reflect for years and worked in IT for 15 years. If you follow the steps I described above, it will work. If you decide to go your own way, I have no idea what you’ll end up with.

  • confuseduser43

    4 Apprentice

    591 Posts

    2530

    0

    Posted October 17th, 2018 12:00

    Ok just purchased a new m2 ssd and a usb stick i didn't have a spare one that was large enough to create the rescue media .The usbstick used for rescue media creation apparently needs preperation accoreing to this post on macrium support.