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87ninefiveone
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September 13th, 2010 17:00
Dimension E510 CPU Upgrade
First off, this is my first post here and I'd like to thank everyone who blazed a trail and posted helpful info on upgrading Dell E510 and E520 computers. I found numerous helpful threads that helped me upgrade my aging E510 and have made me look seriously at buying and upgrading an E520 as a low cost alternative to a new machine. In that spirit, I want to record all of the useful info in a single place so anyone looking to do this in the future doesn't have to pour over ten different threads like I did to try and piece together the info to upgrade their E510. So here's my experience...
My current machine is an E510. It originally came equipped with a Prescott P4 630 @ 3.0 GHz and an OHJ054 motherboard. As suggested on these forums I was able to upgrade to a Presler P4 D 945 @ 3.4 GHz with zero problems after first upgrading my machine to BIOS revision A07.
Here are the steps you should follow if you wish to upgrade your E510.
1. Download CPU-Z. Links die, so Google it, it's handy and free.
2. Find out which model motherboard/mainboard you have. If you open up your PC it will have a model number printed on the mainboard, pay no mind to it, and instead use CPU-Z to get your info. The number printed on my board was useless for finding info; CPU-Z tells me that I have an OHJ054 motherboard which is what you want. Fear not, if that's no your model number you can still upgrade your CPU, you'll just get a clearable error message when your PC starts up. Also, your motherboards chipset called Intel 945G.
3. Press F2 during startup or use CPU-Z to find out which version of BIOS you have. You want/need A07, get it from Dell's support downloads website.
3. Buy a processor. Socket LGA 775, Intel Pentium 4 or Pentium D. Prescott, Cedar Mill, Smithfield or Presler processors from the 6xx, 8xx, and 9xx series model numbers will work. Prescott and Cedar Mill cores have nearly identical performance, but Cedar Mill cores (identified by a 6x1 model number instead of a 6x0 model number found on Prescott cores) have a smaller architecture 65nm for Cedar Mill vs. 90 for the Prescott cores. Pentium D processors are dual core and basically use two cores printed on a single chip which run in tandem. These processors have 8xx and 9xx model numbers, 8xx models use 90nm architecture and 9xx models use 65nm architecture.
The Intel Pentiun D 945 @ 3.4 GHz is reported to be the fastest processor you can handle with a factory motherboard, supposedly going with the 950 (basically identical to the 945 won't work, which is likely due to the fact that the 950 has a 120W power requirement instead of a 95W like the 945 and below).
Finally, consult Wikipedia’s “List of Pentium Processors” for exact info. What I found there seems to be generally reliable and almost all of it agrees with what I’ve found posted on these forums.
4. Install said processor and prepare for disappointment. Yes, its faster. And yes, its still slow. Bummer. Using Performance Test my factory system posted a 440 composite score, with the upgraded processor I scored a 575 composite. Not bad really for a single $40 upgrade since its a 30% increase in performance, but I don't really notice that much of a difference in speed while using my PC daily. For reference, a medium performance home PC with one of today's dual core processors should score in the 2000-3000 range on this test, so don't expect brand new PC performance with this upgrade.
All in all it was certainly worth the $40 ($30 for the processor on eBay and $10 for some new thermal compound) as the machine does seem to handle multiple simultaneous taks better (thanks dual core!), but I think my money would have been better spent picking up an E520 and upgrading it instead.
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I have an E510 that I upgraded the CPU. I saw no difference and the $$ was a waste. The E520 is not any bettter. Any of these "old technology" PC's, after you upgrade you will still have an "old technology" PC.
Buying a CPU from e-Bay is a hit and miss - you pay your money and take your chances. I bought my upgraded CPU new from www.newegg.com with full warranty.
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Posted September 18th, 2010 07:00
I would respectfully disagree. In the case of an E520 you can upgrade the CPU to a 1033 MHz FSB Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 which is still considered an excellent processor even if it doesn't match the performance of the Quad Core i5 and i7 processors, and "almost new" performance for around $125 from eBay is a hell of a lot better than limping along with an old P4 or Celeron D powered machine.
As for the eBay comment, yeah its a risk. But its also a cheap and plentiful source of old tech. $30-40 to upgrade an old E510 is a pretty low risk situation though and its certainly cheaper than any other alternative to try and eek a bit more life out of an aging machine.
The other main cheap upgrade you can do is finding a new/used video card. I just went from a ATI X600 to a nVidia 7600 and its made a world of difference on my E510 and it cost me another whopping $20 on eBay. My composite score on Performance Test is now a solid 803, up from 440. So, for $60 I've nearly doubled my PC's performance. Not bad I'd say.
cantedview
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Posted September 27th, 2010 02:00
I agree with 87ninefiveone, I run a Dell E520 with a Q6600, upgraded PSU, and ATI Radeon HD 4670 (fanless)... the computer is plenty fast, and very quiet. Still has 1-2 good years of use in it... that's saying a lot for a computer that is already >3 years old.
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Posted June 6th, 2017 10:00
I'm afraid I would respectfully disagree too. I have just upgraded a 5150 that I bought about 9 years ago to a D945 which cost all of £3, including postage from China. The performance is mega for a machine of this age giving a Passmark CPU benchmark of 908 to 916 on a fresh install of Win 10, with 3GB of 667MHz RAM (which is not running at full speed for some reason). Sure, it's giving me an Incompatible Processor message, but one can go straight past that. I have another Gig of RAM to put in and I may bless it with a very cheap SSD, which I know ups the CPU benchmark. This is a performance figure not that different from some of the very cheap machines available today and blows a Raspberry Pi to pieces. It is no good at high end graphics but is giving me a resolution of of 1680 x 1050.
I also have an Optiplex 755 running a Q9550 quad core and with a 240GB OCZ Trion 150 SSD, 6GB RAM (it will take 16GB) is giving a CPU benchmark of 4300, which is well into halfway decent machines today and way above what the average (pre SSDs) Passmark lists for it . With a 2GB Radeon HD6450 I get full 1080p and on 54Mbps fibre, Amazon films stream in full HD with no hiccups at all. They are both very useful machines.
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Posted June 6th, 2017 11:00
This thread has been locked due to it's age, if you have a similar issue, please use the 'New Post' feature at the top of this page and start a new thread.
Bev.

shesagordie
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Posted September 13th, 2010 19:00
87ninefiveone
Thank you, for the useful observations about the e510 processor upgrade.
Bev.