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June 17th, 2009 13:00

Studio XPS 16 - Keyboard Issue / Duplicate Characters

Hi folks

Just curious if anyone else is experiencing the same thing with a new Studio XPS 16 (40) laptop keyboard. Despite tweaking all the advanced settings re keyboard, inc key strike filters / "bounce", repeat and delay rates etc, every fifth or sixth word (or sometimes more frequently), I keep getting double strike / repeated chaaracters in words where they shouldn't be, unless I type REALLY slowly, almost one key at a time (versus my normal 4-6 finger typing! ;-).

I'm pretty sure it's not my typing style, as we have 4 other different Dell laptops, plus a desktop PC with separate keybooard, and it never happens on any. I've also never had this occur in the last 15 years in using a whole variety of different laptops and PC's in the office. Soo I think it must either be something to do with the physical construcction of the Studio XPS keboard or the software driver. But it's driving me crazy having to go back and correct every other word in e-mails and doocs constantly. Interested to know if anyone else has had this annoyance, and if so and they cured it, how!?

(Reposted due to the thought police having removed my first post for the most innocuous of very mild frustrateed expletives. So sue me for being somewhat irritated at having paid $2,500 for a brand new laptop which takes twice as long to type on as my old one, due to constant manual error coorrrectioon - as it was clearly built with zero quality ccontrol! - Perhapss Dell if you put as much effort into QA and integration testing as keyword search bots and administrator policing, these forums wouldn't be ABSOLUTELY chock full of disgruntled customers wondering if they should have bought a MAC instead).

Thaat aside, any views, experience or tips from other aaffllicted users much appreciated.

Many thanks

Hal

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    Posted March 18th, 2010 17:00

    Hi everyone.  I have created a utility to filter out keybounces like the ones you are experiencing.

    I have a new Dell 1470, and you could certainly add me to this list... keybounce issues from the start.  The problem persisted, even after three keyboard change-outs along with an OS wipe/ factory restore and also a motherboard swap-out.  A thorny problem, indeed.  My utility cleared up 99% of the issues on my laptop.  Now I can type whole paragraphs without having to go back through them with a fine-toothed comb.  Woo-hoo!!!

    To help with visibility, I started a new thread over here.  See if this uliltiy can help you... hopefully it can.

    Blessings!

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    Posted March 19th, 2010 19:00

    Just thought that I'd bump this thread since I have found a solution and some may have missed my earlier post.  Look here

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    Posted March 25th, 2010 15:00

    Thanks for the link to the poll. I voted.

    Did you try my utility to see if it would help?  (Please see two posts back.)

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    Posted March 26th, 2010 09:00

    Hello p,

    Thanks for the feedback. Please check back over in my script thread again. The script has been updated to no longer grab the Alt- or Win- keys.

    The repeat rate limit is an understood limitation of this method. If you tweak around, you may be able to strike a moderate balance between the repeat rate and the programmed gating time that you need for your keyboard (you can certainly try lower values than the default 40). 

    Yes, the real fix would need to be performed at the driver level.

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    Posted March 26th, 2010 10:00

    Script updated today. Corrected side-effect where "+" and "^" were not coming through the filter.

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    Posted September 18th, 2010 10:00

    Except for this issue, Dell has been a great company for laptops/notebooks.  My notebook (Inspiron 1470) would be just about perfrct were it not for this multiple-keystrike problem.  If the only fix was in hardware, then Dell would indeed be in a tough position.  It would require a motherboard redesign and a recall, like the Xbox Ring of Death problem, i.e. very expensive.  That said, the cost in reputation can spiral upward very quickly and badly, which is the very reason why manufacturers issue recalls in the first place.  That said, there are a couple of points to be made to the decision makers at Dell:

    1) Their current MO (modus operandi, mode of operation) is to have customers go through their standard support system (repair/replace at service centers or on-site).  This is already costing them a lot of money - a lot.

    2) I believe that a tweaked keyboard driver release could fix the problem.  I already have a script-based utility that goes a long way to eliminating the problem, at least eough that my laptop is usable again.  All they have to do is to increase the gating time for the keybounce filter.  I don't know what expertise Dell has in-house to develop a custom-tweaked keyboard driver, but in my experience as a developer, it would be a tiny fraction of the cost of their current path of option 1).  By attackign the problem at the source, they would simultaneously increase their profits and make their disgruntled customers happy about their Dell laptops again.

    Seems like a simple decision to me.

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    Posted January 21st, 2011 08:00

    I'm having the same problem of duplicate characters with my brand new XPS17 (L701X)  (value: US$ 2800, in Argentina)

    I can't believe DELL isn't able to solve this problem since 2008.... really a shame.

    This is my LAST DELL purchase EVER.

    A new remedy was recently posted here. Look near the middle of Page 2.

    It uses a keybounce filtering feature built in to Windows, so it does not require any new software. To enable the feature, you will need to know how to edit the Registry (use regedit). But it is a known method that could work for you today.

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    Posted September 15th, 2011 11:00

    Not sure if Dell has started providing keyboards without the problem (it would be great if they did - for them and everyone). For what it's worth, my keyboard is not backlit and does exhibit the problem, as did the other two before it, which were replaced under warranty.

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    Posted November 14th, 2011 09:00

    falessi, it is unfortunate that the Autohotkey utility (thread link is two posts back) did not run correctly on your Dell. Yours is the only case that I have seen where it did not work. Thanks for listing the FilterKeys approach, which also works well. For reader reference, that approach is also listed in detail in the other thread.

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    Posted June 9th, 2014 22:00

    Sorry to see your Dell keyboard problems - it is painful to read through all those doubled keystrokes (painful because I experienced them too). Did you try the procedure outlined here: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19328066.aspx?pi239031352=4 Look near the bottom of Page 4 of the thread as posted by sweaver2112. You will want to follow the procedure exactly, as it has some subtleties to it. If you haven't tried that yet, then maybe it will help.