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Richard Asbury
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September 2nd, 2004 17:00
Stuttering performance in all games
Hi,
A few months after I originally got my Inspiron 5150, it started cutting the power when I played games for more than about 30 minutes. It later went on to produce corrupted graphics and eventually had to have its motherboard replaced.
A few months ago, however, I noticed a new, much more subtle problem. In *all games*, the video pauses for about 0.25 seconds every 5 seconds or so. It makes most games completely unplayable as they attempt to adjust their speed to compensate. Here's what I've tried to do to correct the problem:
1. Turn down detail/resolution on games
2. Update drivers for audio, video, and all other hardware, update Windows and BIOS, DirectX
3. Scan for viruses and spyware
4. Kill off all unnecessary processes and services, and I tried diagnostic boots where they were never started
5. Disable different bits of hardware, both at the level of the BIOS and Windows. Remove peripheral hardware that's not necessary.
6. Full hard disk format and reinstall of XP.
7. Rolling back drivers, BIOS etc. and installing older versions
None of these things have helped. If XP is in it's virgin state, before sp2 is installed, the games don't just stutter - they run at a ridiculously slow rate (about 0.5 fps) after about 30 seconds.
Considering the history of the computer, I strongly suspect hardware heat damage. Is this likely to be the case? If so, how much will it cost to repair? (Sadly, my warranty ran out a couple of weeks ago before I'd had a chance to fully investigate the problem). I'd be very grateful for any info!
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Rusty-Balse
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 17:00
I don't recommend turning speedstep off.
There are some good tools for monitoring the cpu temp and speed.
I use speedwitchxp to control my power settings rather then the windows power setting because it offers more control and a graphical monitoring system.
and I8KFanGUI for monitoring the cpu temp and fanspeeds. This program was made specifically for the Inspiron 8K series but works with I5150. Great for monitoring cpu temp and load with a nice histogram graph.
Edit: Both programs are made by the same person and the website can be found easily by searching through google.
Message Edited by Rusty-Balse on 09-02-2004 03:00 PM
Richard Asbury
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 17:00
Also, the problem has only started to occur in the last few months. Games ran fine on the same system for a while before that...Rusty-Balse
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 17:00
To resolve this problem I bought a coolpad laptop stand from roadtools to elevate my laptop so the air can flow easily through the fan intake (which happens to be on the bottom of the laptop.
I also have a floor fan set up blowing on high speed directly at my laptop all the time. The floor fan may not be needed but llowers my temperature by an extra 5-10 degrees.
Also I recommend a can of compressed air to blow through the laptop and remove any dust build up. Doing so will greatly decrease temp.
Richard Asbury
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 17:00
Sorry! Forgot specs:
Computer Model Inspiron 5150
BIOS Vendor Dell Computer Corporation
BIOS Version A36
BIOS Date 07/30/2004
Case Type Portable
Windows Version XPCentral Processor
Manufacturer Intel
Voltage 3.3 V
External Clock Speed 133 MHz
Maximum Clock Speed 3200 MHz
Current Clock Speed 1600 MHz
System memory
DIMM: 256 Mb
DIMM: 256 Mb
Hardware (Built Into System)
Type Description Enabled
Video ATI Radeon 9000 Yes
sound, video, and game controllers Sigmatel 9750 YesHardware (Added On To System)
Type Description Manufacturer
DVD/CD-ROM drives QSI CDRW/DVD SBW-242 (Standard CD-ROM drives)
disk drives FUJITSU MHT2060AT (Standard disk drives)
display adapters ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 ATI Technologies Inc.
IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers Intel(R) 82801DBM Ultra ATA Storage Controller - 24CA Intel
Primary IDE Channel (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Secondary IDE Channel (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
keyboards Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard (Standard keyboards)
mice and other pointing devices Microsoft PS/2 Port Mouse (IntelliPoint) Microsoft
Microsoft USB IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0 (IntelliPoint) Microsoft
monitors Default Monitor (Standard monitor types)
Default Monitor (Standard monitor types)
Digital Flat Panel (1600x1200) (Standard monitor types)
network adapters Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller Broadcom
Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport Microsoft
1394 Net Adapter Microsoft
sound, video, and game controllers SigmaTel C-Major Audio SigmaTelDisks
C:\ fixed 57176 Mb
D:\ CD ROMRusty-Balse
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 17:00
I had this same problem too.
Dell tech support was of no help on this issue so i used various tools to monitor my laptop to see what was wrong.
The intermittent lag is cause by your cpu getting too hot and stepping down.
Intels website states this perticular cpu can only handle a maximum of 71 degrees. My speed changes in games when the cpu reaches 71 degrees.
The reason there is lag is because the cpu reaches a temperature which is too high then changes to the lower speed (1.59GHz)to cool down. However in changing speeds the cool down is VERY quick (but only a few degrees). Almost instantly the cpu cools to around 68 degrees where it then switches back to 3.06GHz because the temp is within operating range. BUT when the cpu changes back to 3.06GHz it takes only a few seconds to get too hot again which starts the whole cycle again. You will notice that the lag you experience in games is at almost exact time intervals of anywhere from 5-10 seconds.
Durins_day
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 18:00
I had this problem for months before I finally figured it out. Odd how this never happened when the laptop was new.. I also had the video problem (which just started acting up again, now that my warrenty is void). Oh well. anyway, I found this program called SpeedswitchXP which allows you to see all kinda nifty cpu-related info. Run it, and make it run on A/C power under 'battery opt' mode, problem solved (at half the cpu speed - but oh well)
Enjoy-
A1c Kapitan
Nellis Airforce Base, NV
Durins_day
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 18:00
Oops, a URL might be handy.. here yas go: http://www.diefer.de/speedswitchxp/index.html
da rickster
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 21:00
i have gone through this myself and has helped many people with this problem: the 51x0 series has the worst cooling ive ever seen, overheating problems are causing your slowdowns, ive written many replies to help those, but ill just post this link instead:
it contains everything you need to know, read it in detail if you want GREAT/FULL PERFORMANCE of your laptop back.
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=insp_video&message.id=120971
Richard Asbury
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Posted September 3rd, 2004 12:00
Guys thank you SO MUCH!!! I installed the programs you mentioned and set the settings the way you suggested and now I can play games smoothly again. I'll go get a can of compressed air today and try getting the dust out of there. I'm guessing I might need to open it up and take a look inside, because I've had this MB and processor for about 5 months now...
Anyway, thanks again! You've saved my gaming life!

Richard Asbury
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Posted September 2nd, 2004 17:00
Thanks for the info - I actually forgot to mention that I disabled speedstep in the BIOS (so that the processor always runs at the lowest speed) and this did not affect the problem (games still ran at full speed, but stuttered).
How did you correct the problem? Or did you just live with it?