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XPS 8930, Cannot boot failed Windows Update

I had a failed Windows Update and my system was unable to boot. I booted to the USB Recovery I made when I purchased my System. I tried to run System Restore and I saw a message that System Restore was turned off. 

This has happened before where System Restore get's turned off, I turn it on and a few days it is off.

How can I fix it where it stays on?

  • speedstep

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    Posted November 20th, 2020 21:00

    When you have current OEM dvd it takes less time to get back to working and does not require you to be online to get to bootable recovery.

    None of the recommendations included in this post are a waste of money because the important parts like drives and dvd and power supply and video can be carried forward to a newer or even brand new PC if its the right model.

    I also tend to have the DUAL LAYER burnable DVD disks that are now required to make recovery DVDs now as well as a stash of USB2  16 and 32 gig FAT32 sandisk flash drives.

    https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruzer-Glide-Flash-SDCZ60-032G/dp/B00XJXYONO/

    I still however every once in a while buy the $12 dvd and end up giving it away to my friends when they crash and otherwise cant actually afford a new computer.

    https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-64-bit-reinstall-recovery-disc-only-no-license-key-included/p/N82E16832350238

     

    Most All Dell models from 2006 to now work when you have at LEAST 4 gigs ram and at least 250 Gig hard drive or SSD,

    That includes desktops and laptops.

    The Optiplex GX620 tower is a very special machine.

    You can use it for recovery and it has both SATA and IDE interfaces.

    It also works with ALL versions of the software from MSDOS all the way thru Windows 10.  Its not a speed demon but its fine for most things.  Has optional legacy PS2 keyboard and mouse as well as parallel port and Serial Ports. 

    Combined with latest bios and Pentium D 915 you have an oldie but goody that works with EVERYTHING and the TOWER can take an EVGA 700BR power supply.

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/evga-br-series-700w-atx12v-eps12v-80-plus-power-supply-dc-dc-technology-black/6346160.p?skuId=6346160

     

    GT1030 Video card and an HDMI to VGA adapter means it runs all monitors from VGA 1985 to  4K samsung HDMI TV.

    Add an external USB2 Blueray drive and you have reinstall for cyberlogic power DVD playback as well as Disk burning for blueray and DVDs

    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-8x-external-usb-2-0-blu-ray-disc-double-layer-dvdrw-cd-rw-disc-rewriter-black/9243009.p?skuId=9243009

     

    https://www.walmart.com/ip/REFURBISHED-Optiplex-GX620-Tower-400GB-HDD-4GB-Ram-DVD-Rom-17-LCD-Monitor-Windows-7-Professional/280159717

    if whatever you buy comes with at least windows 7 the update to 10 is still free.

    You use the I dont have a key option for install or for older media you use a generic home or pro key for install

    The generic key cannot be used to activate but it will install without issue.

    Once you get online you can activate using the SLUI 3 command or the change my product key option and use the key thats on the windows 7 home or pro COA sticker.

    Windows 10 Edition RTM Generic Key (retail) KMS Generic Key
    Windows 10 Home YTMG3-N6DKC-DKB77-7M9GH-8HVX7  
    Windows 10 Home N 4CPRK-NM3K3-X6XXQ-RXX86-WXCHW  
    Windows 10 Home Single Language BT79Q-G7N6G-PGBYW-4YWX6-6F4BT  
         
    Windows 10 Pro VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T W269N-WFGWX-YVC9B-4J6C9-T83GX
    Windows 10 Pro N 2B87N-8KFHP-DKV6R-Y2C8J-PKCKT MH37W-N47XK-V7XM9-C7227-GCQG9
    Windows 10 Pro for Workstations DXG7C-N36C4-C4HTG-X4T3X-2YV77 NRG8B-VKK3Q-CXVCJ-9G2XF-6Q84J
    Windows 10 Pro N for Workstations WYPNQ-8C467-V2W6J-TX4WX-WT2RQ 9FNHH-K3HBT-3W4TD-6383H-6XYWF
         
    Windows 10 S 3NF4D-GF9GY-63VKH-QRC3V-7QW8P  
         
    Windows 10 Education YNMGQ-8RYV3-4PGQ3-C8XTP-7CFBY NW6C2-QMPVW-D7KKK-3GKT6-VCFB2
    Windows 10 Education N 84NGF-MHBT6-FXBX8-QWJK7-DRR8H 2WH4N-8QGBV-H22JP-CT43Q-MDWWJ
    Windows 10 Pro Education 8PTT6-RNW4C-6V7J2-C2D3X-MHBPB 6TP4R-GNPTD-KYYHQ-7B7DP-J447Y
    Windows 10 Pro Education N GJTYN-HDMQY-FRR76-HVGC7-QPF8P YVWGF-BXNMC-HTQYQ-CPQ99-66QFC
         
    Windows 10 Enterprise XGVPP-NMH47-7TTHJ-W3FW7-8HV2C NPPR9-FWDCX-D2C8J-H872K-2YT43
    Windows 10 Enterprise G   YYVX9-NTFWV-6MDM3-9PT4T-4M68B
    Windows 10 Enterprise G N FW7NV-4T673-HF4VX-9X4MM-B4H4T 44RPN-FTY23-9VTTB-MP9BX-T84FV
    Windows 10 Enterprise N WGGHN-J84D6-QYCPR-T7PJ7-X766F DPH2V-TTNVB-4X9Q3-TJR4H-KHJW4
    Windows 10 Enterprise S NK96Y-D9CD8-W44CQ-R8YTK-DYJWX FWN7H-PF93Q-4GGP8-M8RF3-MDWWW
         
    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB   WNMTR-4C88C-JK8YV-HQ7T2-76DF9
    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB N   2F77B-TNFGY-69QQF-B8YKP-D69TJ
         
    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB 2016   DCPHK-NFMTC-H88MJ-PFHPY-QJ4BJ
    Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSB 2016 RW7WN-FMT44-KRGBK-G44WK-QV7YK QFFDN-GRT3P-VKWWX-X7T3R-8B639
         
    Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2019   M7XTQ-FN8P6-TTKYV-9D4CC-J462D
    Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSC 2019   92NFX-8DJQP-P6BBQ-THF9C-7CG2H
         
    Windows Server 2016 Datacenter   CB7KF-BWN84-R7R2Y-793K2-8XDDG
    Windows Server 2016 Standard   WC2BQ-8NRM3-FDDYY-2BFGV-KHKQY
    Windows Server 2016 Essentials   JCKRF-N37P4-C2D82-9YXRT-4M63B
         
    Windows Server 2019 Datacenter   WMDGN-G9PQG-XVVXX-R3X43-63DFG
    Windows Server 2019 Standard   N69G4-B89J2-4G8F4-WWYCC-J464C
    Windows Server 2019 Essentials   WVDHN-86M7X-466P6-VHXV7-YY726

     

     

  • redxps630

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    Posted November 14th, 2020 08:00

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-update/windows-10-updates-keep-turning-off-system-restore/6f15b889-d6ad-4145-b8e5-ff53abcb3cbf

    Personally I prefer not to use system restore but fresh clean install. The downside is losing pre installed apps and data if there is no back up.

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    Posted November 14th, 2020 13:00

    @redxps630 

    I usually don't use system restore. But in a no boot situation it will usually get me back up and going.

    That link never showed how to fix the issue mainly people just talking about the issue.

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    Posted November 14th, 2020 14:00

    Not sure if this is a temporary fix. Try disable Windows 10 update permanently and see if that preserves system restore indefinitely. It appears update would force disabling or deletion of restore. If the question is how to fix OS to be able to both update and preserve restore, then I do not know.
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    Posted November 14th, 2020 15:00

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    Posted November 14th, 2020 15:00

    @redxps630 

    I always keep updates paused and I check every few days for updates. I do not want forced updates. But I have had them fail then find out system restore was turned off. I also make a True Image backup before Windows Update. But I also like to have System restore as another option.

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    Posted November 20th, 2020 05:00

    @speedstep 

    I plan on upgrading my M.2 Soon. But why should I have to buy a new drive to fix this? I am starting to think this is a Dell issue with System Restore getting turned off. 

    And why should I have to buy Windows 10 when I already bought it?

    Dell cannot even fix their own Support Assist software. 

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    Posted November 20th, 2020 06:00

    I've found Windows 10 disables system restore after many updates (major ones) and is in fact disabled by default on most fresh installs.

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    Posted November 20th, 2020 07:00

     

    I plan on upgrading my M.2 Soon. But why should I have to buy a new drive to fix this? I am starting to think this is a Dell issue with System Restore getting turned off. 

    If you don't care about any of the data on the drive you don't have to buy a new one. You will need to make recovery media or buy an OEM DVD.  They are not horribly expensive and they work forever.  Flash drives detrap and burned DVD's go bad over time.

    And why should I have to buy Windows 10 when I already bought it?

    Most vendors no longer ship with recovery media.   Microsoft has a problem with piracy.  The OEM DVD works out of the box and does not require you to be online in order to do startup repair or reinstall or recovery.   These DVD will become hard to find soon because microsoft discontinued the refurbisher program.

    Dell cannot even fix their own Support Assist software. 

    I have no comment on that.   I know that my solution works for ALL DELL MODELS from 2006 to now.  $12 is not the cost of windows its the cost of the disk.

    https://www.newegg.com/microsoft-windows-10-pro-64-bit-reinstall-recovery-disc-only-no-license-key-included/p/N82E16832350238

    The error messages can be clear like below or worse its just black screen of death.  There is no installation media shipped with most machines so you have to make your own with the media creation tool and USB2 FAT32 16 or 32 gig Flash Drive. 

    https://www.dell.com/support/article/en-us/sln300564

    https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Cruzer-Flash-Drive-SDCZ36-032G-B35/dp/B001XURP8Q

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

    You can then download and run the media creation tool. For more information on how to use the tool, see the instructions below.

    https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209

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    Posted November 20th, 2020 11:00

    Power PC on and forceably power off as soon as you see the Dell splash screen through 3 cycles of on/off. After the 3rd cycle, Windows should automatically enter the repair environment on next boot. Follow the prompts to see if you can repair the installation.

    If not, create a bootable USB at the Microsoft site. Plug that in with PC powered off. Then boot and tap F12 at the splash screen to open the boot menu. Select boot from USB and follow the troubleshooting prompts.