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May 6th, 2011 09:00

replicate from VNX to VNXe

Hi

I am in the process of setting up VNX 5300 and VNXe 3100, the goal is to mirror data from VNX to VNXe, i am not using recover point because that would require buying two appliances, what tools are best to use for this i am going to do async mirroring? ( i know that mirroring are not a option in VNXe )

both systems have licences for remote protection pack.

the VNX 5300 is block only.

BR

Ingvar

  • Kumar_A

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    Posted May 6th, 2011 10:00

    I am assuming that you are trying to do an iSCSI replication between VNXe3300 and VNX5300. VNXe uses file level iSCSI and you would need to get an RPQ approved to enable that on the VNX side. You will have to work with your EMC account team to get the RPQ process started.

  • ingvar oskarsson

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    Posted May 6th, 2011 16:00

    Hi Avi

    yes iscsi is the only way, what does RPQ stands for?

    if it is recover point then i like to avoid that because the need to buy extra appliances.

    BR

    Ingvar

  • Rainer_EMC

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    Posted May 6th, 2011 20:00

    RecoverPoint doesn't work here

    AFAIK it only does FC and not ISCSI

  • Rainer_EMC

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    Posted May 6th, 2011 20:00

    Sorry - you can't do that one with array tools

    VNXe ISCSI is file level (Celerra) and VNX block is Clariion ISCSI

    Different tools are used there

    Either use host level copy / replication or upgrade the VNX to file with data movers so that you can use Celerra ISCSI and Replicator there

    Rainer

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    Posted May 7th, 2011 05:00

    this is confusing, can you please clarify what replication options are available between VNX and VNXe ?

  • Rainer_EMC

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    Posted May 7th, 2011 14:00

    Its actually not that confusing - just think of the VNXe as a Celerra without Clariion SAN option (for now)

    you can use IP Replicator for NFS and CIFS much like between Celerra's

    major difference is that the VNXe doesnt do VDMs or multi-protocol

    In terms of block the only option on the VNXe is file system based ISCSI (like it was on Celerra).

    So you need to use IP Replicator there as well BUT have to add Replication Manager to control it.

    Since the VNXe currently doesnt have Clariion layered software you cant use MirrorView or SANcopy.

    So you cant use or replicate block FC or ISCSI LUNs

    The difficulty with the original posters question was that he said he only has a VNX block - meaning what used to be called a Clariion.

    That one only contains the storage processers but not file hardware like data movers and control stations.

    Without them you cant use IP Replicator.

    Hope that clarifies it

    Rainer

  • ingvar oskarsson

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    Posted May 7th, 2011 16:00

    I thought the VNXe series were both file and block arrays, from the document on the EMC site "At a Glance: EMC VNXe Series" i saw this sentence: "Designed for IT managers with limited storage expertise, the VNXe series facilitates complete storage consolidation with advanced file and block functionality as well as a simple, application-driven approach to managing shared storage" also in the file "EMC VNXe Series for IT Consolidation" the sentence about how simple and efficent the VNXe is : "As a unified, integrated storage solution, the VNXe series is an optimal consolidation solution for file and block applications."

    Am i misunderstanding the VNXe in that respect, im used to work with Clariions and mirrorview technology, are block level functionality different on the VNXe than VNX ( Clariion )?

    So the bottom point is that i am not able to replicate beetween 2 brand new EMC arrays from the same product line at the array level?

    The VNX array will be used with existing fiber channel infratructure at the customer site, will that prevent me from using the VNXe as destination array for replication?

    BR

    Ingvar

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    Posted May 7th, 2011 17:00

    Correct

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    Posted May 7th, 2011 19:00

    Yes - if you want to replicate FC LUNs you need to get a VNX (without e)

  • ingvar oskarsson

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    Posted May 7th, 2011 19:00

    you are propably answering question number 1,2 and 3 with one answer

    do i have to go to 5100 or larger array to do replication on the array level?

    Thanks for a quick answer

    Ingvar