The only thing I don't like on the way DELL lists their bios manual is "Depending on your computer and its installed devices, the items listed in this section may or may not appear"
If you don't have it listed where it should be as per the manual, I would contact DELL tech support and inquire what you should have listed in that section or what you are missing to see it.
I am thinking this initial requirement is a "test", to see what the amount of backlash is.
It will likely hit many Enterprise solutions, and I can see them raising an issue with the requirements if it starts to block to many machines from upgrading.
Enterprises want to stay on the same OS version for the majority of their systems, as it lowers their costs.
Hopefully it will be like Windows 8/8.1, that eventually led to Windows 10 because Enterprises were not upgrading to the new UI of Windows 8/8.1. Maybe Windows 12 will solve this...
"FWIW: R2 R3 R6 off the support list … (don't expect a Bios / firmware patch)"
Interesting that they did not bother to add the Aurora R7 to the list, considering that it is the same PC as the Aurora R8 (minus 9th gen support) which is on the list, and that the Aurora R7 already passes the Windows 11 PC Health checker and has a TPM 2.0 chip installed and ready for use.
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According to the online service manual it should be listed under the Security section of the bios menu.
Bios guide
The only thing I don't like on the way DELL lists their bios manual is "Depending on your computer and its installed devices, the items listed in this section may or may not appear"
If you don't have it listed where it should be as per the manual, I would contact DELL tech support and inquire what you should have listed in that section or what you are missing to see it.
Vanadiel
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June 25th, 2021 11:00
I am assuming this has to do with Windows 11 and the TPM 2.0 requirement.
You can download the Microsoft application to check if you meet all requirements to upgrade to windows 11.
The application download link is at the bottom of this page:PC Health Check Application
Since Windows 11 release is still some months away, if it is not available in the BIOS there's still time to add it in a future BIOS update.
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Thank you again, @Vanadiel
That is very helpful!
Odd, it says it's enabled by default. I'll check the BIOS, and in case, as you suggested, I'll reach out to Dell.
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Thanks @Vanadiel
Yes, I already checked with the Microsoft utility, and the AMD 1950x is not compatible at the moment.
I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing the PSP fTPM option anywhere in the BIOS.
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So, in the BIOS under TPM security there are two voices, both are disabled:
Do I need to enable both?
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That I do not know, on my R10 it's different?
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The other thing I would like to add is this: Supported AMD Processors
I was unable to locate yours in that list, so it looks like your processor is not supported by Microsoft...
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Right, I noticed that yesterday.
Apparently, Microsoft can still add support for other CPUs, hopefully they'll add mine as well.
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I am thinking this initial requirement is a "test", to see what the amount of backlash is.
It will likely hit many Enterprise solutions, and I can see them raising an issue with the requirements if it starts to block to many machines from upgrading.
Enterprises want to stay on the same OS version for the majority of their systems, as it lowers their costs.
Hopefully it will be like Windows 8/8.1, that eventually led to Windows 10 because Enterprises were not upgrading to the new UI of Windows 8/8.1. Maybe Windows 12 will solve this...
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June 26th, 2021 22:00
FWIW: R2 R3 R6 off the support list … (don't expect a Bios / firmware patch)
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June 26th, 2021 23:00
R4 yes R3 no.
INTEL PTT and UEFI class 2.3.1 are required.
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Ran out of time
https://www.amd.com/en/processors/ryzen-threadripper-pro#
Cant be added its INSIDE the CPU
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Zen 3
Alienware Area-51 R7 Gaming Desktop, AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2920X
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Threadripper doesn't have AMD Pro Security.
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_15DF&SUBSYS_15DF1022&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_15DF&SUBSYS_15DF1022
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_15DF&CC_108000
PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_15DF&CC_1080
https://www.amd.com/system/files/documents/pro-security.pdf
Platform Security Processor A firmware (BIOS/CPU) version instead of real TPM hardware.
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"FWIW: R2 R3 R6 off the support list … (don't expect a Bios / firmware patch)"
Interesting that they did not bother to add the Aurora R7 to the list, considering that it is the same PC as the Aurora R8 (minus 9th gen support) which is on the list, and that the Aurora R7 already passes the Windows 11 PC Health checker and has a TPM 2.0 chip installed and ready for use.