Area-51 R5, BIOS update for new gen 9 CPU support?

Above, A51 R2 (& some) R4 owners have K31VH or H4TYR 27mil cooler rad; (some) R4 & all R5 owners will have the newer 27mm NVDDX below

I'll need to toss some shade on the Aliens thermal hardware decision if I may

Entry-level, but I'll call it budget, budget coolers in the 120mm category start at 27mm wide radiator, ~about as thin as it gets & are found in A51 R1 R2 R4 R5; from there, rads grow in size to 30mm (like Aurora R5-R8), 38mm (Aurora R4), & 48mm (A51 AMD R3 R6 R7), where rule-of-thumb is > larger is better

I felt the use of the 27mm rad on 51 R1's 130w TDP CPU was 'the limit of acceptability'; when 51 R2 debuted using a 27mm rad for the now 140w TDP CPU, I found their decision to use that cost-cut budget-part in poor taste, esp. when paired w/ 5960x, a 10-core beast when overclocked

That they've used the same 27mil even on the 165w Skylake-X 7940 7960 7980 I found 'problematic'; in Skylake X CPU Prices Explained I all but prove they're charging ~$500 over retail on top chips ... & to that I would ask --> why they have no 'budget' left which affords to provide their $1900 $2200 $2500 CPU buyers even a marginally thicker radiator for their 165w TDP CPUs (30 38 49 etc); I assume they throttle those CPUs in order to keep them inside the noise & thermal-envelope ($2500 CPU that can't run at max performance due to their budget cooler which helps them realize a cost-cut on their end & unsightly price-hike to the buyer's end is a real shame, adds insult to injury)

When the Aurora with its $400 95w TDP 8700k gets a 30mil rad, it makes one wonder why a $2000+ 165w TDP chip gets a 27mil, that is my point 

Compare NVDDX ...

... to AMD TR4 rad below, it's nice & fat ...

Yeah. That's more like it. TFGHM or HR6V4, pricey @$215 DellSales, 48mm Asetek 180w TDP ThreadRipper (AMD TR4 retention ring would come off, your NVDDX socket 2066 ring would be transferred on, in theory); Corsair Asetek 49mm H80i V2 is $65 after rebate

Above, AMD crowd gets the (almost!) largest 120 rad Asetek makes & fits the case; I'd argue, that is the cooler that all 7940 7960 7980 desktops should've gotten, due to higher TDP & due to $500 overcharge relative to MSRP (note Dell gets a big discount when they buy CPUs in bulk from Intel, perhaps a discount buying bulk from Asetek)

*We can now argue that all Gen9 165w Refresh chips need that same 48mil cooler or an intermediate 38mil: Basin Falls is not the time or chip for budget cooling ... the Core Wars are happening as we speak

I told u all that so I could tell u all this: to answer your question, I'd say that because the 27mm rad is already found on some 165w TDP Skylake-X (& now Basin Falls Refresh as seen on the sales menu), I'd say yours can be used because it's already used, but the real question is should it be

Also note that your X299 mthrbrd in question could ship w/ 165w 7980XE (7960/7940), power delivery for new Gen9 will be 'the same'

For OC, there should be 'factory pre-set profiles' tailored to each specific CPU SKU; Bios &/or CmndCntr detects the CPU ID & applies its unique OC to it, such that 7900x loads its own profile & 9800x will now load its own new profile (from pre-sets / tables found in new Bios update & CmndCntr versions meant for new R5 Refresh), & so on down the line for all SKUs > there are now 12 CPUs on the sales menu & each gets its own unique OC profile, spec'd by the engineers

Monitor your temps now, using your budget cooler, w/ HwInfo CPU-ID, Intel XTU etc; when u install new Gen9, do the same & compare temps (before / after), then decide if u need a larger better mid-range or high-end cooler

Note: as we gloss over 95w 9900k reviews & articles, the use of a budget cooler 27mm wide is unthinkable & considered a joke, where H80i 49mm types are considered the minimum someone can use & get away with, 240mil respectable, 360mil 'smart' :/

Thank you very much for that response. Do you by chance have a link to the dell sales for those part numbers? Also do you know if the corsair h80i is a direct replacement or will i have to pull out the motherboard to replace the bracket for the cooler to mount? Thanks

Hi, Dell.com

On the splash page, little blue deal on the right called 'chat or call', click it

Chat is easiest > Home > Purchase Parts & Warranty Ext > chat

call 1 800 433 2392 >< email

80i has what they're calling 2011/2066 support, where 2011 does not need a backplate & is a direct-screw-in

"Although LGA 2066 incorporates more pins than LGA 2011v3, it shares many of the same dimensions. As a result, it's physically compatible with existing LGA 2011v3 coolers." This tells me there's no back-plate, 2011/2066 = easy-off easy-on

Note u do not have traditional USB2.0 header to plug into for CorsairLink software, & I can't link u to someone w/ R4 R5 + 80i, it was however used & seen in R2 2011v3

Find Corsair on Twitter / Facebook & ask directly, & see google uTube

AlienTube used a TRipper to show how-to swap a cooler out, & shows the tremendous bulk of the 48mm cooler when compared to the whimpy & anemic 27mil

*I can not link u to an Intel owner who's attempted the larger 48mm TR4 alien cooler above, I expect it to work once the AMD retention ring is removed & replaced w/ their 2066 ring which itself needs removed (partial cooler disassembly *may* be required on both models)

UNBOXING: i9 9980XE 2080 Ti SLI

@2m20s this R5 vid published a month ago shows the negligently whimpy cooler & an NvLink bridge so stripped down & ugly that the owner-buyer should've been astonished, given not only the checkout price tag - but as I showed in this tweet to the GM - an estimated $1275 price gouge over 'retail' ($1750 over retail had it been 64Gb memory)

Not even on the $2500 CPU (+$500 gouge over retail) are they 'generous enough' to dole out anything better than 27mm budget cooling. If you asked me, given the unashamedly ridiculous pricing relative to the truly powerful & power-hungry potentials of the high-core-count i9-Class, the top 40 60 & 80 should all share the ThreadRip 48mil cooler standard, anything less is a slap in the face given their $500 overcharge (the cost of budget cooling is already priced into the $1900 base model; they don't even try to trick buyers into adding +$50 for 48mil cooler as an option to make their books & owner's pricey CPU all work out enough to at least 'look' things are legit ... oh well ... )