Aurora R10, BIOS 2.2.1 update, AGESA 1.0.0.6

Thanks, sounds like good advice

My update was automatically installed by the Microsoft Store as well and after rebooting, offered to install the updated OC software, which I did. Rebooted again. CPU temp and frequency seem to be working again normally on my R10 5900X. All my previous settings were saved. I agree did not see it on the drivers download list from Dell.com

Thanks!  I have an AW keyboard so will probably see something when Dell releases the version for the R10.

So I hadn't had the AW keyboard and mouse connected...I plugged in and on next reboot the Dell update popped up stating that the OCC tools needed to be updated.  Let that install and restart and now my CPU temp/speed is working again.

Nice—glad you were able to get the software updates!

Has anyone tried to to run CPUID HWMonitor at the same time as the fusion tab?? I'm getting some big discrepancies of CPU temp readings... Fusion showing temps that are up to 6 degrees lower!!! (I used to run both before, prior to the Fusion sudden fail, and it was always pretty much the same)

Am on R10 Ryzen 9 5950X

I also have a Area 51m R2 with I9 10900k, and Fusion (also just updated) is pretty much reading CPU temps that are aligned with CUPID HWMonitor when running at the same time... so could there  be a problem with Fusion not getting proper readind from the AMD??

Ok... so... additionally to the issue I explained in my previous post, I'm also getting some really wild fan speeds... when I set it to Performance, the front fan comes in insanely loud suddenly, even though the Fusion tab says it's only set to 20%...

I really think something is messed up  again with Command Center... When I set thermals to "quiet" the top fan tab says it's set to 47% which it is obviously not as it would be rather loud and it's very quiet... As a test I created a custom setting with an offset to 47% and it's so loud l you can hear it in the other room. So I think the settings are not managing the fans properly at all. Right now I'm thinking that the previous faulty version was actually better!

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@Makaniche wrote:

Has anyone tried to to run CPUID HWMonitor at the same time as the fusion tab?? I'm getting some big discrepancies of CPU temp readings... Fusion showing temps that are up to 6 degrees lower!!! (I used to run both before, prior to the Fusion sudden fail, and it was always pretty much the same)

Yes—I see discrepancies between the CPU metrics reported by AWCC and HWiNFO64.

On my machine, the differences in the values are expected because AWCC and HWiNFO64 sample CPU performance metrics at different points in time. In the screenshot (below) AWCC samples CPU performance at an interval of 1 second, and I have configured HWiNFO64 to sample CPU performance metrics at an interval of 0.25 seconds.

CPU performance metrics reported by AWCC (left side) and HWiNFO64 (right side).

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@Makaniche wrote:

I also have a Area 51m R2 with I9 10900k, and Fusion (also just updated) is pretty much reading CPU temps that are aligned with CUPID HWMonitor when running at the same time... so could there  be a problem with Fusion not getting proper readind from the AMD??

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From my experiences with AWCC v5.4.7.0, I doubt that AWCC is having problems reading AMD CPU performance metrics.

Here's what fan behavior looks like on my R10 when thermals in AWCC are set to "Performance" under a CPU load. In the example (below), Horizon Zero Dawn is compiling optimized shaders.

R10 fan behavior for the "Performance" thermal profile when the CPU is loaded.

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@Makaniche wrote:

When I set thermals to "quiet" the top fan tab says it's set to 47% which it is obviously not as it would be rather loud and it's very quiet...

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Below are fan speeds from my R10 when the "Performance" and "Quiet" thermal profiles are active.

• The %-fan speed is not reported on a linear scale—e.g.,
  • 31% fan speed is about 1,142 RPM, and
  • 42% fan speed is about 1,520 RPM.
    • Both of these fan speeds are audibly quiet.

Fan behavior for the "Performance" thermal profile when the CPU is not loaded.

 Fan behavior for the "Quiet" thermal profile (in firmware v2.2.2) when the CPU is not loaded.

IMHO, I think that you're presuming that 47% should be near to half of the fan's Revolutions Per Minute (RPM) range. You could try creating a fan curve to see the relationship between %-fan speed in AWCC and fan RPM as reported by HWiNFO64 on your R10.

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@Makaniche wrote:

As a test I created a custom setting with an offset to 47% and it's so loud l you can hear it in the other room.

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When I set the top fan offset to 47%, the top fan will run at 67%.

Configuring the top fan offset at 47%.

When configured with a 47% offset, the top fan runs at 67% when the CPU is not loaded.

From what I can tell, the offset setting for fans changes fan speed behavior as follows:

% speed = auto(cpuTemp) + offset

Alienware provides very little documentation about how any of the settings in the "Advanced" tab are supposed to work. If you're going to configure an offset or smooth line setting for a fan, you'll probably have to observe how those different fan settings affect fan behavior under different CPU / GPU loads.

Thanks so much for taking the time to post such detailed explanation, that is really great. I'm going to check on that and to some more testing on my machine...