Awesome! Thanks guys It does look like I will get the AIO liquid cooler option as mine has a 1,000 W PSU and my spec says 'CHAS, L6, 1000, GLD, DK, RYZEN' and the table posted by redxps630 has that listed as having the 'Dark Sideofthe Moonchassiswith High-Performance CPU Liquid Coolingand 1000W Power Supply'
I did get Dell to send me a plain English version of the purchase and it reads as follows:
Dell Outlet Alienware Aurora R10
Alienware Chassis with 1000W Power Supply (Dark Side of the Moon)
Qualcomm QCA9377 Dual-band 1x1 802.11ac Wireless + Bluetooth
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor (8 Core, Max Boost Clock of 4.40GHz, 36MB Cache, 65W) Low-Profile Smart Cooling Heatsink Solution
I've watched several videos about switching out the fans for Noctua ones which I'll almost certainly do but I will wait until the R10 arrives before buying anything - need to test that everything works and that it won't be going back.
This new Dell spec information you posted seems to suggest Dell has modified the standard 1000w chassis to offer a basic pancake air cooler instead of liquid cooling. Originally this cooling solution is only offered for the 550w/850w chassis. Dell might be thinking that a 65w cpu 3700x “does not” need high performance liquid cooling. That is unfortunate because the pancake cooling is woefully inadequate and incompetent and should have been called “low performance” cooling. open box liquid cooler on eBay is $99.
Sigh. I hope you're wrong but I will wait and see. Even if it comes without the AIO liquid cooler, it's still a pretty good deal as I can buy the cooler unit used for about $50.
I need to stop worrying and just wait for it to arrive.
Even though your new Aurora Ryzen R10 will have an AMD processor . . . you still live in the wonderful world of Dell, so the CPU cooler mounting stud spacing for your AMD processor uses Intel spacing. This is the installation manual from the EVGA web site which shows AMD parts, which you will not need.
So after all the confusion over the spec, I called Dell Outlet and tried to explain that the listing I saw on the Web Site definitely said Ryzen 7 5800 but they were saying that they would ship a 7-3700X and that it was not certain it would have the liquid cooler which would cost me another $100 or so after I'd bought all the bits plus the hassle. I told Dell if that they could not confirm it was a Ryzen 7-5800 then that was not what I ordered and I wanted to cancel which is what happened.
Now I've ordered one from Amazon that has the following spec
The title reads...
Alienware Aurora R10 Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 7 5800, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 LHR, Liquid Cooled, VR Ready, Killer WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.0, USB-C, Windows 11 Home - Black
And the details also say...
AMD Ryzen 7 5800 (8-Core, 36MB Total Cache, Max Boost Clock of 4.6GHz)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080, 10 GB GDDR6X, LHR
1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
16 GB, 1 x 16 GB, DDR4, 3466 MHz, XMP
So I'm getting the Ryzen 7 5800, air cooling. I'm missing the 2TB SATA spinner drive (which was probably unnecessary) plus the RAM is a single stick 3466 MHz arrangement so I should be able to buy an extra 16 Gig stick and run it in dual mode. The 3080 is an LHR version but, apparently, this makes no difference for gaming, just crypto mining which I don't care about. It is shipped for free by Amazon and has free return (with paid shipping) for any reason at all (I'm a Prime member) plus I get 5% back of my Prime Visa card.
It might get here on Friday and I'll most pictures when it does.
It looks like the description indicates liquid cooling, you did not need the 2TB HDD spinner, you should order 2 X 16GB RAM modules so they are exactly the same to run dual channel. Make sure the RAM is compatible with your R10.
So I have to ditch the 16 Gig stick that comes with my PC right? Someone on another thread says that these Crucial RAMs are the best 2x16GB set to buy, any other suggestions?
Yes . . . that RAM is listed as compatible by Crucial. Your rig supports 3400MHz, but I do not see any offerings by Crucial at the speed. You would not notice the difference in RAM speed anyway.
So if I have to buy 2 sticks of new RAM, are there any other alternative compatible RAM kits that would take advantage of the support for 3400 MHz? I agree that it's not much difference but if it were only $20 more to buy higher speed RAM...
OTOH, just going to dual mode should be a performance increase vs a single stick shouldn't it?
Plan is to get the system as-is, test it for a few days, and then, assuming it's a keeper, upgrade the RAM and maybe the fans too if it's too noisy.
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February 27th, 2023 07:00
Professor has already answered the question of cpu. It is R7 3700X (65W), not 3800X or 5800X.
Professor has pointed out you have got 1000w psu.
Your chassis module is MOD,CHAS,L6,1000W,GLD,DK,RYZEN R717C
R10 Ryzen edition offers these chassis options. Looks like all the 1000w chassis comes with liquid cooling as a standard.
Dark Sideofthe Moonchassiswith Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU Heatsinkand 550W Power Supply
Dark Sideofthe Moonchassiswith High-Performance CPU Liquid Coolingand 550W Power Supply
Lunar Lightchassiswith Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU Heatsinkand 550W Power Supply
Lunar Lightchassiswith Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU Heatsinkand 550W Power Supply
Lunar Lightchassiswith Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU Heatsinkand 850W Power Supply
Dark Sideofthe Moonchassiswith High-Performance CPU Liquid Coolingand 1000W Power Supply
Dark Sideofthe Moonchassiswith High-Performance CPU Liquid Coolingand 1000W Power Supply
Lunar Lightchassiswith High-Performance CPU Liquid Cooling and 1000W Power Supply
Lunar Lightchassiswith High-Performance CPU Liquid Coolingand 1000W Power Supply
Dark Sideofthe Moonchassiswith Low-Profile Smart Cooling CPU Heatsinkand 850W Power Supply
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February 27th, 2023 07:00
MH0HN = 95W CPU liquid cooler (Aurora R6/R7/R8/R9/R10/R11/R12)
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February 27th, 2023 07:00
I see what appears to be conflicting information;
Module,Label,Advanced Micro Devices,8C/16T/95W,Desktop,5675 P9TTX 1
MOD,PRC,R7-3700X,8C,65W R0RR9 1
Regardless . . . it appears to have a 1000 watt PSU and, if absent, the liquid cooler is an easy install, with upgraded Noctua fans.
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February 27th, 2023 08:00
Awesome! Thanks guys It does look like I will get the AIO liquid cooler option as mine has a 1,000 W PSU and my spec says 'CHAS, L6, 1000, GLD, DK, RYZEN' and the table posted by redxps630 has that listed as having the 'Dark Sideofthe Moonchassiswith High-Performance CPU Liquid Coolingand 1000W Power Supply'
I did get Dell to send me a plain English version of the purchase and it reads as follows:
Low-Profile Smart Cooling Heatsink Solution
I've watched several videos about switching out the fans for Noctua ones which I'll almost certainly do but I will wait until the R10 arrives before buying anything - need to test that everything works and that it won't be going back.
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February 27th, 2023 08:00
It also looks like (weirdly) that the Ryzen 7-3700X is higher performing (and costs slightly more than) the Ryzen 7-5800X.
I'm getting that data from here.
redxps630
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Re: Low-Profile Smart Cooling Heatsink Solution
This new Dell spec information you posted seems to suggest Dell has modified the standard 1000w chassis to offer a basic pancake air cooler instead of liquid cooling. Originally this cooling solution is only offered for the 550w/850w chassis. Dell might be thinking that a 65w cpu 3700x “does not” need high performance liquid cooling. That is unfortunate because the pancake cooling is woefully inadequate and incompetent and should have been called “low performance” cooling. open box liquid cooler on eBay is $99.
5800x is zen 3, newer than zen 2 of 3700x.
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-5800X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X/4085vs4043
tmawson
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February 27th, 2023 09:00
Sigh. I hope you're wrong but I will wait and see. Even if it comes without the AIO liquid cooler, it's still a pretty good deal as I can buy the cooler unit used for about $50.
I need to stop worrying and just wait for it to arrive.
Thanks for the help y'all.
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February 27th, 2023 10:00
This is another option for AIO liquid cooling EVGA 120mm AIO
Drop some photos of your new rig when it arrives . . . sounds like you got a great deal; enjoy!
tmawson
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February 27th, 2023 16:00
Thanks professor, but your Amazon link says that the EVGA AIO cooler is only good for Intel systems? Ryzen is an AMD system?
I will post pictures when it gets here.
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February 27th, 2023 17:00
Even though your new Aurora Ryzen R10 will have an AMD processor . . . you still live in the wonderful world of Dell, so the CPU cooler mounting stud spacing for your AMD processor uses Intel spacing. This is the installation manual from the EVGA web site which shows AMD parts, which you will not need.
tmawson
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February 28th, 2023 09:00
So after all the confusion over the spec, I called Dell Outlet and tried to explain that the listing I saw on the Web Site definitely said Ryzen 7 5800 but they were saying that they would ship a 7-3700X and that it was not certain it would have the liquid cooler which would cost me another $100 or so after I'd bought all the bits plus the hassle. I told Dell if that they could not confirm it was a Ryzen 7-5800 then that was not what I ordered and I wanted to cancel which is what happened.
Now I've ordered one from Amazon that has the following spec
The title reads...
Alienware Aurora R10 Gaming Desktop - AMD Ryzen 7 5800, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 LHR, Liquid Cooled, VR Ready, Killer WiFi 6, Bluetooth 5.0, USB-C, Windows 11 Home - Black
And the details also say...
So I'm getting the Ryzen 7 5800, air cooling. I'm missing the 2TB SATA spinner drive (which was probably unnecessary) plus the RAM is a single stick 3466 MHz arrangement so I should be able to buy an extra 16 Gig stick and run it in dual mode. The 3080 is an LHR version but, apparently, this makes no difference for gaming, just crypto mining which I don't care about. It is shipped for free by Amazon and has free return (with paid shipping) for any reason at all (I'm a Prime member) plus I get 5% back of my Prime Visa card.
It might get here on Friday and I'll most pictures when it does.
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February 28th, 2023 09:00
It looks like the description indicates liquid cooling, you did not need the 2TB HDD spinner, you should order 2 X 16GB RAM modules so they are exactly the same to run dual channel. Make sure the RAM is compatible with your R10.
tmawson
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February 28th, 2023 09:00
So I have to ditch the 16 Gig stick that comes with my PC right? Someone on another thread says that these Crucial RAMs are the best 2x16GB set to buy, any other suggestions?
ProfessorW00d
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February 28th, 2023 10:00
Yes . . . that RAM is listed as compatible by Crucial. Your rig supports 3400MHz, but I do not see any offerings by Crucial at the speed. You would not notice the difference in RAM speed anyway.
tmawson
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March 1st, 2023 07:00
So if I have to buy 2 sticks of new RAM, are there any other alternative compatible RAM kits that would take advantage of the support for 3400 MHz? I agree that it's not much difference but if it were only $20 more to buy higher speed RAM...
OTOH, just going to dual mode should be a performance increase vs a single stick shouldn't it?
Plan is to get the system as-is, test it for a few days, and then, assuming it's a keeper, upgrade the RAM and maybe the fans too if it's too noisy.