I am going to disagree here a little bit. Alienware is pretty good at delivering gaming results. Where Alienware misses the mark is Dell’s insistence on designing their systems solely to lock the user into their purchase thereby making it difficult to do much with it post sales. The other issue with Alienware are their design decisions that in the end negate the benefits of some of their higher configurations.
Paying more for an i9-12900KF that performs like the i7-12700KF is a bad look and from early feedback it appears that may have carried over to the 13th generation Intel CPU’s.
The RTX 3070 is a much better card vs the 6600 XT. The 6600 XT is more like the RTX 1060. I have an Aurora R10 with a 2070 Super and in 1080P, there aren’t too many games where I have to run in med-high settings. The 2070 Super allows me to max out settings in 1080P at minimum 60FPS.
The RTX 3080 is even better with about a 15-20% gain in performance.
replace the original Radeon 6600 XT with a Dell OEM RTX 3070.
1. The thinking is it was designed to used the GPU and it would be a solid upgrade.
2. The weird thing is while the GPU scores on user bench mark certainly improved, the rest of the PC tanked.
3. So, the GPU was a solid improvement, but as you can see, every other score dropped, some by a substantial amount. Worse is that it is noticeable in use.
4. Can anyone think of why a GPU upgrade would cause all other aspects of the PC to be negatively affected. Is it possible the system was optimized for AMD components?
1. The Nvidia card is not only faster, it has technologies (like PhysX) that are not even available on AMD.
2. Nothing looks "tanked" to me. AFAIK, anything that benches within around 10% of previous is about the same.
3. The only thing I see lower is SSDs. They are still so fast, I can't imagine you noticing it in the real-world (booting or loading programs/games/levels etc.).
4. Well, I noticed that your main system memory is only Single-Channel.
I'm assuming some of those SSDs are on PCIe Addin cards? If so, the AMD chipset might not be optimized to provide adequate bandwidth or sharing. Plus, I'm not sure how the whole x16 but x8 electrical thing is implemented on AMD based motherboards.
I agree completely with @Vanadiel and @RodsterB but just wondering about one more variable. The 6600XT requires a 500W PSU whereas the RTX 3070 requires 650W. Is it possible that under load the PSU has some bearing on the scores assuming you do not have the 850W or 1000W PSU. If you do have one of those PSU then everybody back to your original scheduled programming.
I did not say Alienware was terrible, just not great. For the record, I bought one knowing it was good but not necessarily great.
I have ran the benchmarks multiple times and I keep getting the same results.
I am leaning to what you suggest @JOcean, I do have the original 550w PSU and I wonder if it is throttling a bit.
That said, I suspect I will sell the 3070 and just keep the original CPU/GPU. It does rather well and I am not sure if the juice is worth the squeeze to replace the PSU hoping to realize the full potential. Besides, I may well start causing more problems down the road adding more heat and the 3070 is quite a bit larger than the 6600 XT, making an already cramped case more so.
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I am going to disagree here a little bit. Alienware is pretty good at delivering gaming results. Where Alienware misses the mark is Dell’s insistence on designing their systems solely to lock the user into their purchase thereby making it difficult to do much with it post sales. The other issue with Alienware are their design decisions that in the end negate the benefits of some of their higher configurations.
Paying more for an i9-12900KF that performs like the i7-12700KF is a bad look and from early feedback it appears that may have carried over to the 13th generation Intel CPU’s.
The RTX 3070 is a much better card vs the 6600 XT. The 6600 XT is more like the RTX 1060. I have an Aurora R10 with a 2070 Super and in 1080P, there aren’t too many games where I have to run in med-high settings. The 2070 Super allows me to max out settings in 1080P at minimum 60FPS.
The RTX 3080 is even better with about a 15-20% gain in performance.
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Depends on the benchmark used. There are some that are not exactly reliable.
Run it 5 times in a row and see what you get each time. Each should result in numbers that are within the margin of error.
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February 5th, 2023 09:00
You also have a different driver set, and the SSD I would suggest doing a trim and check the results again.
Usually when you switch between AMD and Nvidia cards you would use DDU to ensure no leftover drivers are causing issues.
DDU
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1. The Nvidia card is not only faster, it has technologies (like PhysX) that are not even available on AMD.
2. Nothing looks "tanked" to me. AFAIK, anything that benches within around 10% of previous is about the same.
3. The only thing I see lower is SSDs. They are still so fast, I can't imagine you noticing it in the real-world (booting or loading programs/games/levels etc.).
4. Well, I noticed that your main system memory is only Single-Channel.
I'm assuming some of those SSDs are on PCIe Addin cards? If so, the AMD chipset might not be optimized to provide adequate bandwidth or sharing. Plus, I'm not sure how the whole x16 but x8 electrical thing is implemented on AMD based motherboards.
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February 5th, 2023 09:00
I agree completely with @Vanadiel and @RodsterB but just wondering about one more variable. The 6600XT requires a 500W PSU whereas the RTX 3070 requires 650W. Is it possible that under load the PSU has some bearing on the scores assuming you do not have the 850W or 1000W PSU. If you do have one of those PSU then everybody back to your original scheduled programming.
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February 5th, 2023 11:00
Happy to help out!
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I did not say Alienware was terrible, just not great. For the record, I bought one knowing it was good but not necessarily great.
I have ran the benchmarks multiple times and I keep getting the same results.
I am leaning to what you suggest @JOcean, I do have the original 550w PSU and I wonder if it is throttling a bit.
That said, I suspect I will sell the 3070 and just keep the original CPU/GPU. It does rather well and I am not sure if the juice is worth the squeeze to replace the PSU hoping to realize the full potential. Besides, I may well start causing more problems down the road adding more heat and the 3070 is quite a bit larger than the 6600 XT, making an already cramped case more so.
Thank you everyone for the feedback and advice.