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SkierBosche

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February 19th, 2020 15:00

Aurora R10, adding NVMe M.2 SSD via a PCIe adapter

(NOTE-THIS POST HAS BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT 970 EVO PLUS)

I am planning to add this SSD:

Samsung 970 EVO PLUS SSD 2TB - M.2 NVMe
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MFZXR1B/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_BeEtEbKCT8MTX

To my Aurora R10 Ryzen Edition using either one of these adapters:

Lycom DT-120 M.2 PCIe to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MYCQP38/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

or

M.2 NVME to PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter with Aluminum Heatsink Solution (used successfully by others on R7's)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JJTVGZM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Plugged into the PCI-Express x4 slot (SLOT3)

Will it work?

Note that I already have the factory M.2 NVMe 2TB card on-board plugged into the solid-state drive slot (M.2 SSD).

  • 11778

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    Posted December 28th, 2020 14:00

    Since I ended up figuring out how to get this second M.2 SSD using the PCIe adapter card working, I will share what I did to get it recognized and working.

    With the second SSD/Adapter plugged into the second GPU x16 slot4, there was no way it could be accessed via Disk Management or anything else. Like it did not exist. Tried everything I could think of, or find online.

    Solution:

    I have a bootable Win10 on a USB stick.

    I took out the ssd/adapter from the x16 slot4, and uninstalled the ssd from it.

    I took out the stock m.2 ssd from the m.2 port, and put in the new one.

    I plugged in my usb stick, and powered up. It booted using the usb, as that now became the default 'Windows Disk' in the UEFI BIOS set up.

    I loaded Windows Disk Management and it recognized the m.2 SSD, which it did not before, so I set it up as usual as a standard volume, no drive letter yet.

    Then I exited Windows and powered down.

    I swapped back in the stock m.2 ssd to the m.2 port.

    I reinstalled the new m.2 sdd back onto the PCIe adapter again, and plugged it back into the second x16 gpu slot4.

    I booted up and it booted using stock m.2 ssd.

    The second ssd/adapter was now recognized in Windows Disk Management, and I gave it a drive letter.

    Windows Explorer also sees the new disk.

  • Tesla1856

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    Posted February 19th, 2020 19:00

    If you extrapolate from this thread, yes it should work:

    https://www.dell.com/community/Alienware-Desktops/Installing-3-x-1TB-M-2-Samsung-PCiE-NVME-Drives-in-Aurora-R7-8/m-p/7474557#M22386

    ... if the PCIe-Addin card is 100% compatible and 100% operational.

    However, a good SATA-3/600 SSD is usually fine for large games and other things you might store on a D-Drive.

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  • SkierBosche

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    Posted February 29th, 2020 20:00

    Posting in reply now to confirm this works just fine. Simple, easy setup.

  • SkierBosche

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    Posted July 15th, 2020 12:00

    I can but results will not be meaningful as I do not have a before/after.

    The PCIe NVMe memory is indeed slower than the NVMe M.2 slot memory, but again, that is not apples to apples. 

    I have yet to peg the GPU on this box either, even when rendering video. 

    But, moot really as this is the only place I can expand to more NVMe memory on this machine. 

  • Fatlardo

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    Posted July 15th, 2020 12:00

    Can you test the speeds on that new slot and also test your gpu?  I thought I read somewhere it slows down since the pcie lanes are shared?

     

  • Fatlardo

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    Posted July 15th, 2020 13:00

    It will be meaningful because we know what the speeds should typically be. So we can see the speed loss.

    I have an opportunity to get a 2nd nvme at a really good price. Your results will tell me to buy the 2nd nvme or instead an regular ssd/sata drive. Thanks. 

  • SkierBosche

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    Posted July 15th, 2020 13:00

    Using Blackmagicdesign's Disk Speed Test:

    The 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB - M.2 NVMe attached to a PCIe adapter gets 1305 MB/s WRITE, and 1455 MB/s READ

    The OEM 2TB M.2 NVMe attached to a NVMe slot gets 1891 MB/s WRITE, and 3028 MB/s READ

     

     

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    Posted July 15th, 2020 13:00

    Thank you so much. That’s still very fast. 

  • r72019

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    Posted July 15th, 2020 21:00

    I wonder if the slowed speed has to do with the PCiE slot that you plugged the adapter into. 

  • r72019

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    Posted July 15th, 2020 21:00

    @SkierBosche @Fatlardo 

    Ah, I think I figured out why your speed got slowed.  It's explained on page 8 of the manual:  https://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/alienware-aurora-r10-desktop_users-guide_en-us.pdf

    The R10 cuts the speed of the x4 PCiE slot #3 (#2 is obstructed by the GPU) in half, so only 2 of the 4 lanes transmit data.  

    I believe you should be able to increase your speed to 3K+ write via PCIE by dropping your adapter and SSD down to the bottom GPU slot, which will allow full bandwidth.